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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rezonator View Post
    You're absolutely correct. The "hug-a-Muslim" crowd can't seem to grasp one utter simplicity:
    Appeal to emotion.

    What they do there, has no bearing on Muslims here. If a muslim ever tried to impose such a thing here, I would stop them. Otherwise they are free to believe where and what they want.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Appeal to emotion.

    What they do there, has no bearing on Muslims here. If a muslim ever tried to impose such a thing here, I would stop them. Otherwise they are free to believe where and what they want.
    YOU would stop them ???? If so, why didn't you stop some of the honor killings that are starting to show up around here.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    YOU would stop them ???? If so, why didn't you stop some of the honor killings that are starting to show up around here.
    That's sort of different.

    That's an individual action... a barbaric one. But let's say Muslims tried to make honor killings law.... Well Nah ah.

    So Gill since you I don't have any answers at all... what do you propose we do? Deport all muslims because they might commit an honor killing?

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's sort of different.

    That's an individual action... a barbaric one. But let's say Muslims tried to make honor killings law.... Well Nah ah.

    So Gill since you I don't have any answers at all... what do you propose we do? Deport all muslims because they might commit an honor killing?
    Don't be absurd. I would put honor killing in the same boat as someone that kills a child after raping them. In this one case, I would agree with the Muslim faith that an eye for an eye is an appropriate sentence.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rezonator View Post
    You're absolutely correct. The "hug-a-Muslim" crowd can't seem to grasp one utter simplicity:
    I suggest you clean your own house before trying to clean someone elses......

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    So then this State College offered religious services to Muslims and only Muslims? Then it wasn't a state college and if it is I would like to know the name because I intend to file suit for violation of the Establishment Clause as State Colleges receive Federal and State financial backing.
    You wouldn't be the first to do that. Trust me, it's in Minneapolis and I'd rather not say the name of the college, but I guarantee you that you'll have no problem finding it and about a hundred editorials attacking it for it's repeated attempts to cater to the Muslim students. And I don't support those attempts to cater to them. It hasn't been equal.

    EDIT: I'm not sure if they receive federal funding... they're associated with a Minnesota State College but I don't know how their financing works. I know they get State funding, though.
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    While not "pure evil" mainstream Islam is certainly violent and oppressive. It's in fact moderates who are on the fringe; such as, the Sufi's who are seen as heretics by the rest of the major Islamic sects.
    While perhaps true in nations like Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, where extremists like the Taleban or the Wahabists are in control, there are plenty of Muslim nations that are stable and important in the international community -- and that stability comes from a stable population. Nations like Turkey, Croatia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan (really, all of the former Soviet Republic nations now governed by Muslim majorities) are all stable, non-radical nations that are self-proclaimed Muslim nations (except, perhaps Croatia, which doesn't consider itself a Muslim nation but nonetheless has a massive Muslim population).

    I think Americans often pgieon-hole "Islam" as "Unstable Middle-Eastern Nations That Spawn Extremist Terrorists" -- and while no one is debating that the latter category is dangerous, it's a fallacy to believe that its directly correlated to the former.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    While perhaps true in nations like Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, where extremists like the Taleban or the Wahabists are in control, there are plenty of Muslim nations that are stable and important in the international community -- and that stability comes from a stable population. Nations like Turkey, Croatia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan (really, all of the former Soviet Republic nations now governed by Muslim majorities) are all stable, non-radical nations that are self-proclaimed Muslim nations (except, perhaps Croatia, which doesn't consider itself a Muslim nation but nonetheless has a massive Muslim population).

    I think Americans often pgieon-hole "Islam" as "Unstable Middle-Eastern Nations That Spawn Extremist Terrorists" -- and while no one is debating that the latter category is dangerous, it's a fallacy to believe that its directly correlated to the former.
    Are any of those countries governed by Sharia law? If not then they are not Muslim nations they are secular nations with a Muslim majority, but I have already stated that I have no problem with secular Muslims but this Imam is not secular he is an overt Islamist. All Isamists aspire for Sharia governance and Sharia governance would entail the criminilzation of apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, premarital sex, and discriminatiory civil law based on gender and religion, and currently the Ijma in all 5 schools of Islamic Fiqh those 4 aforementioned acts are not only criminal but corporal and/or capital offenses.

    While not to informed about the others I know for a fact that Turkey explicitly bans Islamist political parties from participating in elections right in their Constitution.
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You are conspiracy theorist living in a fantasy world. I would say more but don't wish to get thread banned.
    You really behave like an agent. To ban other's mouth so no one can argue with you? What a convenient way.

    With the fake issue "Mosque on Ground Zero", they successfully skipped another 911 aniversary which people usually demand the truth. Do you find how they make "Mosque in Ground Zero" a noisy market and the "Burning the Kulan" a hot issue as well? While the media rarely touch the topic of 911 truth even though it is a much more important issue.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    You really behave like an agent. To ban other's mouth so no one can argue with you? What a convenient way.

    With the fake issue "Mosque on Ground Zero", they successfully skipped another 911 aniversary which people usually demand the truth. Do you find how they make "Mosque in Ground Zero" a noisy market and the "Burning the Kulan" a hot issue as well? While the media rarely touch the topic of 911 truth even though it is a much more important issue.

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