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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    I think the Constitution, local laws and law enforcement can handle that quite well without me. But I'll keep that in mind should I ever get to the Big Apple. Never been there...would love to go for a visit though someday.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He is a private citizen. How can he deny you your first amendment rights?
    He can't, and neither can the protestors in NY deny the Imam his or the mosque owners theirs. Which is why it's so silly to bring up the First Amendment at all -- in this case, in Dr. Laura's case, in any of it.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    You know, you are right. The mosque must move. And while were at it, we need to move these churches too:

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Are you addressing that to me? I never said the mosque should move.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He can't, and neither can the protestors in NY deny the Imam his or the mosque owners theirs. Which is why it's so silly to bring up the First Amendment at all -- in this case, in Dr. Laura's case, in any of it.
    The first amendment applies to those who think we, the people, should stop the Mosque. We cannot, without violating their first amendment rights. We can suggest, protest and all that, but in the end, unless their is a real legal issue, we cannot stop it.
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The first amendment applies to those who think we, the people, should stop the Mosque. We cannot, without violating their first amendment rights. We can suggest, protest and all that, but in the end, unless their is a real legal issue, we cannot stop it.
    Unless they advocate doing it through the government, it has nothing to do with the First Amendment. And even then, it would have be done on religious grounds.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Unless they advocate doing it through the government, it has nothing to do with the First Amendment. And even then, it would have be done on religious grounds.
    Correct. The point is, the only way to stop it is to go through the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Correct. The point is, the only way to stop it is to go through the government.
    Well, that's not acutally true; social pressure can do a lot of things (examples are repleat).

    But they aren't calling for it, so there's no First Amendment issue.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, that's not acutally true; social pressure can do a lot of things (examples are repleat).

    But they aren't calling for it, so there's no First Amendment issue.
    In this case, they would have to change the mind of the guy whose name I forget who wants to build it. This does not seem to be working to well.
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In this case, they would have to change the mind of the guy whose name I forget who wants to build it. This does not seem to be working to well.
    Too bad for them, then. But there's still no First Amendment issue.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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