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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Nothing you can do will satisfy me except leave..... will you defend my right to be there? Encourage me?
    No, because now you've gone beyond the issue at hand, i.e., a dog that's become a danger to society. Your entire reason for assembling outside my door is because of the threat the dog posses to the neighborhood. As a property owner you have no right to compel me to leave my home or my neighborhood. But by law I must do something to separate the danger to society - the dog - from society. It is my duty as a member of society to help protect it. As such, getting rid of the danger - the dog - IS enough! If you remain after the threat is removed YOU are now violating the law. For you no longer have a reason to assemble in front of my home.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    You sir, need to learn a little more about politics

    As a liberal-progressive you have chosen to vote for a liberal-Marxist, anti-Semitic bigot, who chose to back the Temple of Hate in lower Manhattan. Not Newt Gingrich. Not Rush Limbaugh. Not Glen Beck. Barack Hussein Obama chose to.

    It is not our fault that Imam Obama continues to combust since 2009.

    It is not our fault you voted for Imam Obama because of your internalized liberal racism.

    It is not my fault that my "tribe" (GLBT) chose to back this bigoted, racist homophobe ... who is, against gay marriage.

    It is not my fault liberal-progressives are ... fools.

    As a hard-working American (who tea-bags liberals in the privacy of my apartment), I have the right to use my free speech in any way I see fit, as long as it lawful and consistent with free speech guidelines.

    I need no lecture from you, liberal-progressives or those who are anti-Semitic, homophobic cynics.

    Stick to what you know: banging indy chicks, drinking haute joe and burning the American flag.

    I'll stick to banging liberals in the cornhole and tea-bagging them in my apartment! :-)
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Even though it wasn't directed at me, I want to answer the questions posed here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I have the Constitutional Right to stand outside your home, on the public sidewalk and call you every name in the book, protest your very existence night and day......... would that be right?
    It depends. Did I do something to trigger that reaction from you? You might be totally right to have those opinions.


    Would you defend my right to do that?
    Absolutley. Just because I'm the target doesn't mean I'd want to steal your rights.

    Would you encourage me?
    Probably not. But that'sa a different matter altogether from fighting for your right to do it.





    But I'd say the following is a far better analogy of what is actually occuring here:

    Let's say I have the exrtremely tragic situation where a person of a certain religious denomination rapes and murders my child based on their distorted beliefs about their religion.

    Now lets say the house 6 doors down from my house goes on the market and someone of that same religion decides they want to buy that house.

    Would I be right to tell them that they are completely out of line for wanting to buy a house so close to mine after such a tragedy befell me?

    What if it is a church for that denomination 2 blocks from my house? Would I be right to tell them that they are rubbing my nose in it for building there?

    Or would I be irrationally (albeit understandably) blaming an entire religion for the actions of the nut-job that raped and murdered my child.
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    You sir, need to learn a little more about politics

    As a liberal-progressive you have chosen to vote for a liberal-Marxist, anti-Semitic bigot, who chose to back the Temple of Hate in lower Manhattan. Not Newt Gingrich. Not Rush Limbaugh. Not Glen Beck. Barack Hussein Obama chose to.

    It is not our fault that Imam Obama continues to combust since 2009.

    It is not our fault you voted for Imam Obama because of your internalized liberal racism.

    It is not my fault that my "tribe" (GLBT) chose to back this bigoted, racist homophobe ... who is, against gay marriage.

    It is not my fault liberal-progressives are ... fools.

    As a hard-working American (who tea-bags liberals in the privacy of my apartment), I have the right to use my free speech in any way I see fit, as long as it lawful and consistent with free speech guidelines.

    I need no lecture from you, liberal-progressives or those who are anti-Semitic, homophobic cynics.

    Stick to what you know: banging indy chicks, drinking haute joe and burning the American flag.

    I'll stick to banging liberals in the cornhole and tea-bagging them in my apartment! :-)
    Oh ok I get it. The Steven Colbert of the forum. I like it. "As a hard-working American (who tea-bags liberals in the privacy of my apartment)" THis made me laugh out loud.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Abe Lincoln, Republican.
    Obviously you didn't read my post because I said "liberals" and "conservatives" not "Democrats" or "Republicans", and obviously you don't know anything about the history of the Democratic and Republican parties, and I don't want to take the time to explain it to you.

    But at least you knew better not to comment on any other of the civil issues I mentioned besides slavery, because you know that conservatives tried prevent all of those changes.

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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    No, because now you've gone beyond the issue at hand, i.e., a dog that's become a danger to society. Your entire reason for assembling outside my door is because of the threat the dog posses to the neighborhood. As a property owner you have no right to compel me to leave my home or my neighborhood. But by law I must do something to separate the danger to society - the dog - from society. It is my duty as a member of society to help protect it. As such, getting rid of the danger - the dog - IS enough! If you remain after the threat is removed YOU are now violating the law. For you no longer have a reason to assemble in front of my home.
    Then you don't support my right to freedom of speech and my right to assemble....... you want to deprive me of my Constitutional rights under the 1st amendment.

    Get my point?

    Edit: Exactly how would I be violating the law?
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I won't apologize because the only reason why they would have decided to move it is because we spoke out, brought attention to the subject, and brought the heat down on them.
    And thus, they moved because people asked them to. People said that they were building the mosque to spite the people who were asking them to leave, which is why they were refusing to leaves -- specifically to spite people who wanted them to go, which was the only possible reason they would refuse free state land. Therefore, it wouldn't be out of place to hear an apology or two.

    I might even make a thread for the occassion, if it comes.
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    Re: Mosque in new york to possibly move!

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Those on this forum who oppose the mosque try to play a game of semantics. "They have the right, but that doesn't mean they should do it." Having the right to do something one wants to do means they should do it, because if they really shouldn't be doing it, then they shouldn't have the right to do it. Saying someone shouldn't do it, means that deep down inside you really believe they shouldn't have the right to do so, but you just don't want to say it.
    You're not serious are you?

    Are you literally saying ANYTHING that someone has a right to do is unquestionably and universally then something they SHOULD do?

    I have a right to walk around with a Billboard that says Obama = Hitler...do you think I should do that?

    People have a right to think whatever they want as long as they don't act, so people have the right to fantasy continuously about doing a 5 year old while flogging themselves with a prostetic shaped like a dogs ass. Does that mean you think people should be doing it?

    Or hell, lets take this at a better example that's more relevant.

    I have the right to disagree with this Mosque, suggest that its a testimont to extremist muslims victories over the U.S. in their minds, and a purposeful insult to everyone affected by 9/11 and to speak that all over the internet and to everyone I know. I guess you think I should do that.

    Though your words in this thread seems to be that you're suggesting that people SHOULDN'T do that, which I gues is you really saying you think free speech should be revoked but you just don't want to say it...by your logic.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque On The Move?

    johnnydoowop,

    Please understand something sir: You *cannot* nor will you *ever* change my opinion.

    I am a gay separatist, *RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN* who is a gun owner while socially liberal.

    Your "progressive slime" ideology is really a trumped up Marxist cant that has been re-packaged and sold to the American people on the coat-tails of a corrupt Senator from Illinois who is bigoted racist. Read again: bigoted, racist. The internalized racism of Democrats could finally be efficasized through this extremely good looking (gay?) gentlemen who was voted to the Presidency.

    He is your President. Not mine. I stand against bigotry, hatred, racism and homophobia.

    Mr. Obama is a race-hating, anti-Semitic effiminate bigot.

    Your movement is racist, bigoted and hateful.

    Your movement backs homophobic Islam.

    You chose your political beliefs.

    No you must live with your choice.

    Racism, hatred, bigotry, homophobia, anti-Semitism.

    Ms. Pelosi is a bigoted racist. She will be voted out of the Speaker's Seat in November.

    The Democractic Party chose a racist-bigoted platform. They will face the voters in November.

    Your party, your leader and your ideology are about to get "tea bagged".

    Get ready to swallow some testicles my friend.

    It's gonna be salty!
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