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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And the hundreds of thousands of Iranians who were murdered by the Shah and his secret police. A secret police trained by the CIA and former Nazi officers in various methods of inflicting pain. And a regime put in power by the US and UK to protect the oil interests of private companies in the country, and stealing billions from Iran. Stuff like that come back to haunt you..., so...so what if a few American's were held hostage and maybe tortured (debatable). It after all put your hero Ronald Reagan in the white house.. you should be thanking them!

    As for the Khobar Towers bombing.. yea was convenient that the Iranians were blamed by the FBI... Then again you did shoot one of their civilian airlines out of the sky killing 290 people...
    How many people have been murdered by The Revolutionary Gaurd, since 1979?

    How much money does Iran funnel to Hamas and Hezbollah, every year? It was hezbollah that bombed the Khobar Towers; so yes, Iran gets the blame for that. I guess you're going to tell us that we had it coming, next?

    BTW, let's see a source confirming that former Nazis worked with the CIA in Iran.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

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    How many people have been murdered by The Revolutionary Gaurd, since 1979?
    And so what? the Revolutionary Guard aint trained and backed by the US is it now? The SAVAK was!

    How much money does Iran funnel to Hamas and Hezbollah, every year?
    Plenty.. and how much does the US funnel to dictators and cutthroats every year? How much money did the US throw at the Shah? How much money did the US throw at the Afghani fighters that are now fighting the US in Afghanistan? How much money did the US throw at the dictators of South Vietnam that executed people on the streets? Want to go on?

    It was hezbollah that bombed the Khobar Towers; so yes, Iran gets the blame for that. I guess you're going to tell us that we had it coming, next?
    Had it coming? No.. was it expected after US policy? Yep. 290 civilians shot down by the US, many Lebanese killed in US bombing raids, blind support of Israel and so on and so on.

    BTW, let's see a source confirming that former Nazis worked with the CIA in Iran.
    My bad, that was in Chile. The CIA only taught techniques perfected by the Nazis... not much better.

    "Ex-analyst says CIA rejected warning on Shah", Seymour Hersch: NYT 1/7/79
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Regardless of what events led us to this point, how does the West respond? If Iran does indeed secure a nuclear weapon, though Russia has provided assurance to the contrary, what response is appropiate from the US and its allies?

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

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    Regardless of what events led us to this point, how does the West respond? If Iran does indeed secure a nuclear weapon, though Russia has provided assurance to the contrary, what response is appropiate from the US and its allies?
    Doing nothing, according to Russia there is zero chance that this plant can be used for military purposes.

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

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    Doing nothing, according to Russia there is zero chance that this plant can be used for military purposes.
    Ah, Russia's word.
    Golden than gold.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

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    Doing nothing, according to Russia there is zero chance that this plant can be used for military purposes.
    Yes, but I am asking if Russia is wrong.

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And so what? the Revolutionary Guard aint trained and backed by the US is it now? The SAVAK was!



    Plenty.. and how much does the US funnel to dictators and cutthroats every year? How much money did the US throw at the Shah? How much money did the US throw at the Afghani fighters that are now fighting the US in Afghanistan? How much money did the US throw at the dictators of South Vietnam that executed people on the streets? Want to go on?



    Had it coming? No.. was it expected after US policy? Yep. 290 civilians shot down by the US, many Lebanese killed in US bombing raids, blind support of Israel and so on and so on.



    My bad, that was in Chile. The CIA only taught techniques perfected by the Nazis... not much better.

    "Ex-analyst says CIA rejected warning on Shah", Seymour Hersch: NYT 1/7/79
    So, since The Revolutionary Gaurd isn't trained by the United States, that makes it ok? That's stupid.

    many Lebanese killed in US bombing raids
    US aircraft conducted bombing raids in Lebanon? I don't remember that; gotta source to back that up?

    How much money did the US throw at the Afghani fighters that are now fighting the US in Afghanistan?
    None, the US didn't give money to the Taliban during the Afghan Russo War. We gave money to Shah Massoud's forces, AKA The Northern Alliance, that allied with us to fight the Taliban in 2002.

    How much money did the US throw at the dictators of South Vietnam that executed people on the streets?
    Got any links that support your contention that South Vietnamese dictators randomly, or otherwise, executed people in the streets? While you're at it, you can also dig the information that proves that the North Vietnamese Communist executed government officials, school teachers, or anyone else they considered a threat. The Communists slaughtered hundreds of thousands. Too bad they weren't destroyed, we sould have save alotta lives.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Yes, but I am asking if Russia is wrong.
    According to them every Western head of state agreed with that

    Lalibre.be - La Russie défend la centrale nucléaire iranienne

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    According to them every Western head of state agreed with that

    Lalibre.be - La Russie défend la centrale nucléaire iranienne
    So it says

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, since The Revolutionary Gaurd isn't trained by the United States, that makes it ok? That's stupid.
    Never said it was okay, said there was a difference. The only reason the SAVAK and Shah was in business was because of the US and UK. Without their backing, both monetary and trainingwise, the Shah would never have been put back in power. Without US training, the SAVAK would never have become so brutal as they became.

    US aircraft conducted bombing raids in Lebanon? I don't remember that; gotta source to back that up?
    You dont know your own history do you? 2 US aircraft were shot down during bombing raids in Lebanon by US forces against Syrian positions. Also the New Jersey shelled Lebanon during the same period. As for sources.. google it or look it up in this wikipedia article

    Multinational Force in Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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