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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    The problem with an Israeli strike is:

    (a.) Mr. Obama's current anti-Israel stance. Israel could loose loan guarantees from a White House that is pro-Arab (and therefore anti-Semitic).

    (b.) Another, endless United Nations "investigation" that will find Israel "guilty of war crimes".

    Mr. Bolton was America's last great bullwark against pan-Arab/Islamofascism. Now we are stuck with an anti-Semitic White House and an anti-Semitic liberal mainstream press who will find Israel guilty, regardless.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post

    (a.) Mr. Obama's current anti-Israel stance. Israel could loose loan guarantees from a White House that is pro-Arab (and therefore anti-Semitic).

    First off, those are several stretches. Pro-Arab is anti-Semitic? That's a big one.

    Second, when it comes to US relations with Israel, I like to use this analogy:

    The Republicans are Israel's cheap whore, the Democrats are Israel's cheap whore that talks dirty.

    Israel will get unquestioned support from the Democrats just as much as they would from Republicans.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post

    I believe that the window for stopping Iran from having nuclear power has been closed, and we will, as the old Chinese proverb says, be living in interesting times. We must now adapt our strategy to account for this development. And make no mistake - We must let Iran know that ANY use of weapons of mass destruction will result in the complete annihilation of their nation.

    Article is here.
    First, contrary to what we may believe, even if Iran produces a lot of oil/gas, it needs nuclear energy (or some other source of energy): if it relied only on oil to produce electricity, it would have to import oil!!!

    Then, I don't think there is much to be feared: in spite of all the demonization we read in our medias, Iranians are not stupid and know very well that if they ever use a nuclear bomb, they'll be annihilated in a matter of seconds. We have to remember that "crazy" people such as Mao or Stalin also had nukes, yet they never used them.

    One last thing we have to remember is that nothing proves that Iran actually plans to build bombs: all they do is legal, they can enrich their uranium up to 20% (needed for medical researches) and they can get all the nuclear plants they want to, it's the right of every nation.

    If we had intelligent diplomats, maybe we could have made a win-win deal, where Iran does not need to import oil without building nuclear plants (even if it is their right to do so): the nations who oppose the Iranian nuclear programme could have fund the construction of a giant solar/wind energy station with an energy production that would be similar to one or two nuclear plants, and they could have provided all the uranium (enriched to 20%) needed to make medical researches.

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    The problem with an Israeli strike is:

    (a.) Mr. Obama's current anti-Israel stance. Israel could loose loan guarantees from a White House that is pro-Arab (and therefore anti-Semitic).

    (b.) Another, endless United Nations "investigation" that will find Israel "guilty of war crimes".

    Mr. Bolton was America's last great bullwark against pan-Arab/Islamofascism. Now we are stuck with an anti-Semitic White House and an anti-Semitic liberal mainstream press who will find Israel guilty, regardless.
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    (c.) It would be totally hypocritical to attack someone because he could be planning to get illegal weapons, when yourself have been in possession of the same illegal weapons for decades

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
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    (c.) It would be totally hypocritical to attack someone because he could be planning to get illegal weapons, when yourself have been in possession of the same illegal weapons for decades
    Not at all. Since this "someone" is opposing your existence on every front, it's better not to take the chance and see if a mushroom would eradicate you or not.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Not at all. Since this "someone" is opposing your existence on every front, it's better not to take the chance and see if a mushroom would eradicate you or not.
    Still a double standard

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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Still a double standard
    Then you simply don't understand the meaning of a double standard.
    In the case when there was no hostility coming from Iran, it would have been a double standard, but that is not the case, and it cannot be described as such.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is too late now to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, as that will spread radiation, not only among the civilian population of Iran, but also beyond it's borders. Like it or not, the genie is now out of the bottle, and we must deal with it. Pressure must be kept up on Iran, and the strategy changed from stopping them from acquiring nuclear technology to forcing them to give up its nuclear waste, offering them compensation for it.

    I believe that the window for stopping Iran from having nuclear power has been closed, and we will, as the old Chinese proverb says, be living in interesting times. We must now adapt our strategy to account for this development. And make no mistake - We must let Iran know that ANY use of weapons of mass destruction will result in the complete annihilation of their nation.

    Article is here.
    I could very easily be wrong, but I don't think that a bombing run at this current stage would spread radiation at all.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I could very easily be wrong, but I don't think that a bombing run at this current stage would spread radiation at all.
    Now that you mention it, I have not heard about such thing as well.
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    Re: Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton

    I can understand Reps going along with what their favorite neocon hawk, Bolton says because they'll believe anything that helps their party, but discerning Libs demand more proof before they take any kind of action.

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