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    Re: 9th Circuit Grants Stay Pending Appeal in Prop. 8 Case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Could it be that someone is listening to the will of the people?
    No. The 9th didn't rule on the case, only granted a stay of the lower court's ruling. A reasonable move considering all the marriages that would be in legal limbo if a higher court were to overturn.

    But when this "most liberal appelate court in the country" DOES rule (most likey that Prop-8 DOES violate Equal Protection and Due Process, I haven't heard a single expert come up with a resonable arguement why they wouldn't), it would legalize gay marriage in California. And Washington. And Oregon. And Arizona. And Idaho. And Montana. And Nevada.

    In fact this is probably WORSE news for Prop-8 supporters because, to me at least, it signals an intent for this "most liberal" court to take on the case.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Stop asking such... dishonest questions Chevy, really. Does it have to "Personally" affect me for me to act? I never drink and drive, does that mean I shouldn't support DWI Laws? Cause after all, they don't "Affect me".

    I could go on all day with how silly you are being.
    Just because you don't drink and drive doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. When other people drink and drive on the same roads as you, guess what it affects you!

    And it's not a dishonest question, how does it affect you?
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Stop asking such... dishonest questions Chevy, really. Does it have to "Personally" affect me for me to act? I never drink and drive, does that mean I shouldn't support DWI Laws? Cause after all, they don't "Affect me".

    I could go on all day with how silly you are being.
    Bad analogy. When you can show how gay marriage is personally dangerous in the same manner as drunk driving then perhaps you will have an argument.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The anti-black bigots felt just as justified. It didn't make them any more correct than you. Sorry....just calling it as it is.
    Yes but I don't agree with the "anti-blacks" so how exactly is it relevant to my argument? Boy do I need to walk you through this? Do you have a rebuttle as opposing councilor, or not?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Absolutely!

    Its nice to see the courts stand up for the rights of 7 million voters
    Yep, let's let the masses impose their will on the minority. If we act quickly, before we become a majority minority country, we can take away the right to vote for those of us who aren't white. When the Declaration says "all men are created equal", they mean all people are equal under the law. It doesn't say men who have the same sexual orientation or color or IQ or anything else.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Yes but I don't agree with the "anti-blacks" so how exactly is it relevant to my argument? Boy do I need to walk you through this? Do you have a rebuttle as opposing councilor, or not?


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    You don't consider yourself a bigot and they didn't either because you both feel justified in your bigotry. You may not agree with them on the racial issue, but your mindset is exactly the same.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Just because you don't drink and drive doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. When other people drink and drive on the same roads as you, guess what it affects you!

    And it's not a dishonest question, how does it affect you?
    No, no, no... Mr. V. Don't let them distract.. It's what they do..

    How it affects me is not quantifiable, and they know it. That's why they ask it? Their hope is that you'll say something really, really mean against gays, and they can pin you down. Don't fall for it. Stay within the confines of the law





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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You don't consider yourself a bigot and they didn't either because you both feel justified in your bigotry. You may not agree with them on the racial issue, but your mindset is exactly the same.
    yeah but I provoded a legal argument for my wanting to discriminate. An argument I point out that you haven't addressed yet?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    yeah but I provoded a legal argument for my wanting to discriminate. An argument I point out that you haven't addressed yet?


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    If you don't mind my jumping in, where was this legal argument? I've not seen anything on this thread that looks even remotely based on legal scholarship.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    yeah but I provoded a legal argument for my wanting to discriminate. An argument I point out that you haven't addressed yet?


    Tim-
    Like I said....bigots expressed reasons why they didn't want blacks marrying whites or blacks drinking out of their drinking fountains. Their arguments were no better than your failed argument. Yet, similarly, they didn't view themseleves as bigots either because they believed that they were justified.

    That's the thing about bigots....they look in the mirror and don't recognize themselves.
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