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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    there is nothing in the Constitution about gay marriage Disney. No matter how much you scream, the only way to claim its in there is to bastardize the law already written to include it when it never was even hinted to be in there when it was written.



    Actually I did. I enjoy seeing the rights of the voters enforced by the courts.
    You obviously either are not familiar with or simply do not understand what Equal protection means.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I deleted that post.

    And I have said in other threads that if the majority vote in favor of gay marriage then I have no problem with it. If a majority supports it then let them vote on it. However, they will have to vote to repeal prop 8 and then place a new proposition that defines marriage for that state. I fully support the state's rights to define marriage by popular vote.
    Are you willing to put inter-racial marriage to a vote?

    What if the majority of voters decide that marriage should be restricted to Latinos only.

    Would you be ok with that....as long as the majority of voters voted for it?
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    All I know is that a generation from now, much like the racial issues in the civil rights movement, when my grandchildren talk about prejudice and intolerance, I will be able to tell them that I was on the side of love and right and that I stood up against hatred and bigotry.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    DD -
    Are you willing to put inter-racial marriage to a vote?
    Irrelevant..

    What if the majority of voters decide that marriage should be restricted to Latinos only
    Irrelevant..

    Would you be ok with that....as long as the majority of voters voted for it?
    No, but what does any if it have to do with gay marriage?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    All I know is that a generation from now, much like the racial issues in the civil rights movement, when my grandchildren talk about prejudice and intolerance, I will be able to tell them that I was on the side of love and right and that I stood up against hatred and bigotry.
    Bigotry, eh? On the side of love, eh? Please... How about being on the side that is the most ideal to society.. That's the side I wanne be on.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Someone better call a preacher I think hell has frozen over. The left circuit not making a ruling based on ideology.
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    Re: 9th Circuit Grants Stay Pending Appeal in Prop. 8 Case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I could give a happy rat's ass if gay marriage is legal, but it makes me LOL to see Libbo pet issues get flushed down the toilet. I can't summon the words to say how overjoyed I am to see this turd blown out of the water by the most Liberal appelate court in the country. Could it be that someone is listening to the will of the people?
    1) The judge in question is a Bush appointee;
    2) The will of the people is not relevant in instances where the tyranny of the majority threatens the rights of the minority... that is exactly why we have courts that entertain constitutional questions;
    3) A stay is very appropriate in the circumstance, regardless of the ultimate outcome of the case;
    4) The ultimate outcome is independent of granting a stay; and

    5) that all said, I actually am against gay marriage.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    DD -

    Irrelevant..



    Irrelevant..



    No, but what does any if it have to do with gay marriage?


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    The same arguments apply. There are several people saying that they support whatever the voters decide. The logical extension then is whether ALL civil rights should be put to a popular vote.

    You may not like it...because it hits too close to home. But why is it ok to put some people's rights to a vote and not others? THAT is exactly the same mentality that existed racially during the civil rights movement.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Bigotry, eh? On the side of love, eh? Please... How about being on the side that is the most ideal to society.. That's the side I wanne be on.


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    Exactly how does society benefit by denying gay marriage? This should be good.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The same arguments apply. There are several people saying that they support whatever the voters decide. The logical extension then is whether ALL civil rights should be put to a popular vote.

    You may not like it...because it hits too close to home. But why is it ok to put some people's rights to a vote and not others? THAT is exactly the same mentality that existed racially during the civil rights movement.
    Becasue I'm not predisposed to being black, or latino, or male or female.. THAT's, why it is irrelevant..!!


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