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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So, if a gay man and a lesbian marrying doesn't render marriage inconsequential and dirty the meaning, then how does two women marrying do so?
    That's not what I said. So if friends, you know, buds in their early 20's, wanted to get married to share in all those goodies the Government throws at them, you'd find that ok? What justifies that? Why would we do it? What would be the reason for doing this? The answer is illuminating.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

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    I'm not offended by a gay marriage, I'm concerned how gay marriage will affect society in the long term. Do you have an answer as to why the state, or our state would have any vested interest in marriage outside of procreation? Why would the state care at all. Anyone?


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    I wonder why they let people marry who can't and won't bear children since they have no "vested interest" in such a marriage.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    That's not what I said. So if friends, you know, buds in their early 20's, wanted to get married to share in all those goodies the Government throws at them, you'd find that ok? What justifies that? Why would we do it? What would be the reason for doing this? The answer is illuminating.


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    I don't give a flying **** who enters into contracts with one another. None of my damn business. But why would the govt allow a lesbian and a gay man to marry? What's the reason for doing this? What justifies it? Why would we do it?

    The real question is: Why not? Why should we continue to allow discrimination of the sexes? It serves no purpose.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

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    For the last time, marriage is not essential to procreation. And allowing SSM won't change the number of straight people that can procreate via intercourse.
    No, but a healthy viable marriage is essential to a healthy society. I think history shows us this. Do you not agree that children do better when both the mother and father are present? Or is it your liberal contention that parents are meaningless to child rearing?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    That's not what I said. So if friends, you know, buds in their early 20's, wanted to get married to share in all those goodies the Government throws at them, you'd find that ok? What justifies that? Why would we do it? What would be the reason for doing this? The answer is illuminating.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't give a flying **** who enters into contracts with one another. None of my damn business.

    So the real question is: Why not? Why should we continue to allow discrimination of the sexes?
    So, you're ok with paying for those frat boys, and girls forming a union of marriage just so they can reap the rewards of your hard earned tax dollars, for nothing, other than entering into the contract? Well, I have a problem with that myself. I wonder if you would think that those "buds" getting married is equal to the homosexual marriage?



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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No, but a healthy viable marriage is essential to a healthy society. I think history shows us this.
    Incorrect. Healthy *relationships* are essential, but not marriage contracts.

    Do you not agree that children do better when both the mother and father are present?
    Indeed. We should remove the children from all single parents.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No, but a healthy viable marriage is essential to a healthy society. I think history shows us this. Do you not agree that children do better when both the mother and father are present? Or is it your liberal contention that parents are meaningless to child rearing?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No, but a healthy viable marriage is essential to a healthy society. I think history shows us this. Do you not agree that children do better when both the mother and father are present? Or is it your liberal contention that parents are meaningless to child rearing?


    Do you have children?



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    Studies show that children do best in 2 parent households. You have evidence that those 2 parents must be male and female? Feel free to present it.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    My best friend is a guy, and we could do this exact same thing. It's no argument against SSM.
    I never said it was, well not directly. It's more of an illustration. What it is, is an exposing of the slippery slope that Walkers ruling entails. It opens up a wide variety of marriage possibilities based on gender alone. Why not just restrict it to one man, and one woman?




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