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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So, would it be okay if we disallowed christians from marrying since religious denominations are a "fluid" identity?
    Answer my questions first, and I'll answer yours.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Moreover, with the judge's ruling, he essentially gives permission for two heterosexual bachelors to get married, or two heterosexual bachelorettes to marry, and why limit it to two people.. It dirties the traditional meaning, it renders marriage inconsequential to society. It is this reason why the SCOTUS will overturn it.

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    Indeed. Since one's sexual orientation is entirely irrelevant to marriage, a lesbian and a gay man can marry NOW. Does that render marriage inconsequential and dirty the traditional meaning too?

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    So how does it affect you again?
    It affects the ideal mode for posterity. The affects of huge social changes like this cannot be quantiifed in present tense, and that's why people like you ask the question. It doesn't affect me, and my marriage, it affects societies future. How, remains to be seen.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It affects the ideal mode for posterity. The affects of huge social changes like this cannot be quantiifed in present tense, and that's why people like you ask the question. It doesn't affect me, and my marriage, it affects societies future. How, remains to be seen.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It affects the ideal mode for posterity. The affects of huge social changes like this cannot be quantiifed in present tense, and that's why people like you ask the question. It doesn't affect me, and my marriage, it affects societies future. How, remains to be seen.


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    In other words you have no answer. What ever to famous conservative line

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Indeed. Since one's sexual orientation is entirely irrelevant to marriage, a lesbian and a gay man can marry NOW. Does that render marriage inconsequential and dirty the traditional meaning too?
    No it doesn't, because no one cares if a gay man marry's a woman. It makes their marriage a sham, and that's kind of the point.


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No it doesn't, because no one cares if a gay man marry's a woman. It makes their marriage a sham, and that's kind of the point.


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    So, if a gay man and a lesbian marrying doesn't render marriage inconsequential and dirty the meaning, then how does two women marrying do so?

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    In other words you have no answer. What ever to famous conservative line

    "You do NOT have the Right NOT to be offended"
    I'm not offended by a gay marriage, I'm concerned how gay marriage will affect society in the long term. Do you have an answer as to why the state, or our state would have any vested interest in marriage outside of procreation? Why would the state care at all. Anyone?


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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm not offended by a gay marriage, I'm concerned how gay marriage will affect society in the long term. Do you have an answer as to why the state, or our state would have any vested interest in marriage outside of procreation? Why would the state care at all. Anyone?


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    For the last time, marriage is not essential to procreation. And allowing SSM won't change the number of straight people that can procreate via intercourse.
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