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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Where is the freedom to force the people to change society for no good reason?
    Are you calling the welfare of millions of children of same sex couples who are denied the benefits inherent in marriage, no good reason? Or do you call denying an entire group of people their Constitutional equal protection under the law, no good reason?

    I just want to make sure.

    Oh, and how exactly does same sex marriage change society?
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    How does it affect you again? I keep forgetting.



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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Great news, no more marriages will be preformed. That way when the ruling is struck down they won't have to void the "weddings" If not, it will still be a terrible atrocity committed against voters.
    Actually, I'm super psyched about this. You see, when the voters of California overturn Prop 8 in 2012, you are going to be eating your own words. A majority of voters in California now support same sex marriage and you can bet that a slew of LDS and Catholic funded ad smears on same sex couples is not going to work a second time. You guys are now absolutely committed to the "let the voters decide" mantra, which means that when the voters start deciding for same sex marriage, you have nothing left to argue.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Are you calling the welfare of millions of children of same sex couples who are denied the benefits inherent in marriage, no good reason? Or do you call denying an entire group of people their Constitutional equal protection under the law, no good reason?

    I just want to make sure.

    Oh, and how exactly does same sex marriage change society?
    so you support all sexual orientations obtaining marriage rights as long as it doesn't change soceity. Excellent.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually, I'm super psyched about this. You see, when the voters of California overturn Prop 8 in 2012, you are going to be eating your own words. A majority of voters in California now support same sex marriage and you can bet that a slew of LDS and Catholic funded ad smears on same sex couples is not going to work a second time.
    I deleted that post.

    And I have said in other threads that if the majority vote in favor of gay marriage then I have no problem with it. If a majority supports it then let them vote on it. However, they will have to vote to repeal prop 8 and then place a new proposition that defines marriage for that state. I fully support the state's rights to define marriage by popular vote.
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Are you calling the welfare of millions of children of same sex couples who are denied the benefits inherent in marriage, no good reason? Or do you call denying an entire group of people their Constitutional equal protection under the law, no good reason?

    I just want to make sure.

    Oh, and how exactly does same sex marriage change society?
    It makes Christians become gay...... seriously
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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It makes Christians become gay, seriously.
    Hey I have that power too, but I am straight...

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    so you support all sexual orientations obtaining marriage rights as long as it doesn't change soceity. Excellent.
    Under the real definition of sexual orientation?

    "Sexual orientation describes a pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, both genders, neither gender, or another gender."

    Why not? There are only gay, bisexual, straight, asexual, and transexual orientations and I don't see any reasons to deny those individauls the right to marry another person.

    Or are you trying to distort and arbitrarily redefine sexual orientation to mean something entirely different? Beastiality, polgyamy, pedophilia, etc. are not sexual orientations, and I'm sure you wouldn't be so intellectually dishonest as to try to argue that they are.

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    Re: Court halts Calif. gay marriages pending appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I deleted that post.

    And I have said in other threads that if the majority vote in favor of gay marriage then I have no problem with it. If a majority supports it then let them vote on it. However, they will have to vote to repeal prop 8 and then place a new proposition that defines marriage for that state. I fully support the state's rights to define marriage by popular vote.
    Let me get this straight. The only way that you are going to accept that California wants same sex marriage is that they not only overturn Prop 8 with a majority vote, but then they have to introduce a proposition to amend their Constitution to include a definition of same sex marriage? Why? If they overturn Prop 8, then by all means they have endorsed same sex marriage. Why would they have to go that extra mile? It sounds to me like you are just trying to leave yourself an excuse to fight it until the day you die.

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