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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's part of my reasoning as well, plus I hate monthly bills.
    I mean, I really hate perpetual monthly bills.

    When we get a house, solar (maybe micro hydro if I can some land with a stream) is definitely in the works.

    Batteries and a whole house inverter are last.
    They are the most expensive one time part.
    You hate monthly bills? Oh just wait 'til you get a house. You'll have bills coming out of your ass ...

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You hate monthly bills? Oh just wait 'til you get a house. You'll have bills coming out of your ass ...
    Yeah, owning a house will be your other full time job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure we can...and have...and really arent any closer to 'energy independence'.
    Maybe "we" don't particularly consider that a priority, or "we" consider the benefits of using oil more valuable.

    Of course, my #1 priority is freedom, and if the market doesn't go the way I'd like it to, I'd rather have the freedom.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    My sense is that these initiatives are how industry and government can cooperate effectively to create opportunities for Americans today as we transition to clean energy tomorrow.
    I would like the President to really attack this problem. That would include charging taxes on gas like they do in Europe. Do cap and trade so that the real cost of polluting products like coal are taxed accordingly. We also need to protect US companies that produce these green products. If not we will just create more jobs in China building solar panels and batteries for cars.

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You hate monthly bills? Oh just wait 'til you get a house. You'll have bills coming out of your ass ...
    ****ing hate them.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Google the story of the Little Red Hen. Fools.

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Maybe "we" don't particularly consider that a priority, or "we" consider the benefits of using oil more valuable.

    Of course, my #1 priority is freedom, and if the market doesn't go the way I'd like it to, I'd rather have the freedom.
    yawn....

    Im sorry...I thought this was an intelligent discussion on future energy sources...

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I would like the President to really attack this problem. That would include charging taxes on gas like they do in Europe. Do cap and trade so that the real cost of polluting products like coal are taxed accordingly. We also need to protect US companies that produce these green products. If not we will just create more jobs in China building solar panels and batteries for cars.
    Speaking of Europe. Countries like England, France, Germany and Italy have much higher fuel prices than us right? Have they been driven to make progress on alternate sources of energy and new energy technology any more that us?

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's part of my reasoning as well, plus I hate monthly bills.
    I mean, I really hate perpetual monthly bills.

    When we get a house, solar (maybe micro hydro if I can some land with a stream) is definitely in the works.

    Batteries and a whole house inverter are last.
    They are the most expensive one time part.
    Every part of getting off the grid is expensive....and none of it is permanent. There will be maintenance expenses. My last job involved mountain top microwave sites, and some times there was no grid to tie into. Even if there was, backup power was required.
    Each site had a propane tank, generators, battery banks, etc. The batteries were very low maintenance, but they were also large, heavy, and expensive. You really don't want to get off the grid until after you have done all you can to get your load minimized. Once that is done, your monthly bills will be low enough that getting off the grid won't make much sense.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I would like the President to really attack this problem. That would include charging taxes on gas like they do in Europe. Do cap and trade so that the real cost of polluting products like coal are taxed accordingly. We also need to protect US companies that produce these green products. If not we will just create more jobs in China building solar panels and batteries for cars.
    Whats-a-matter? The economy is doing too well for you? Wanna destroy it some more?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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