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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We lost 293,000 jobs this summer. Doesn't appear that the stealfromus package did much-a-anything.
    So you think without the stimulus we would have lower unemployment?

    Okay boy genius, answer me this.

    Without the stimulus, taxes would be higher and there would be less demand. Explain to me how higher taxes and less demand equates to more jobs. Or you could just run away throwing mindless irrelevant crap as a subsitute for a real reply.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

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    So you think without the stimulus we would have lower unemployment?

    Okay boy genius, answer me this.

    Without the stimulus, taxes would be higher and there would be less demand. Explain to me how higher taxes and less demand equates to more jobs. Or you could just run away throwing mindless irrelevant crap as a subsitute for a real reply.
    LMAO!!! Really? Care to prove that???

    The mindless, irrelavant crap, is in your post...
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    LMAO!!! Really? Care to prove that???
    Easy. One merely needs to look at the actual stimulus bill. The Stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts. And the rest was spending. Do you reject that? Therefore, without the stimulus, we would have higher taxes and less demand. You know, you could educate yourself for once.

    The mindless, irrelavant crap, is in your post...
    Correction. You have no reply. And you are genetically incapable of admitting you are wrong.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Easy. One merely needs to look at the actual stimulus bill. The Stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts. And the rest was spending. Do you reject that? Therefore, without the stimulus, we would have higher taxes and less demand. You know, you could educate yourself for once.



    Correction. You have no reply. And you are genetically incapable of admitting you are wrong.
    Genetically speaking, he is from south Louisiana. Not much different than east Texas, where I grew up. They used to be mostly democrats, until LBJ signed the civil rights bill.
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Easy. One merely needs to look at the actual stimulus bill. The Stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts. And the rest was spending. Do you reject that? Therefore, without the stimulus, we would have higher taxes and less demand. You know, you could educate yourself for once.



    Correction. You have no reply. And you are genetically incapable of admitting you are wrong.
    But, who's taxes got cut? The welfare class?

    Business taxes weren't cut. You know, the folks that actually put people to work?
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Genetically speaking, he is from south Louisiana. Not much different than east Texas, where I grew up. They used to be mostly democrats, until LBJ signed the civil rights bill.
    Didn't take very long to resort to the, "you's a racist", argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Easy. One merely needs to look at the actual stimulus bill. The Stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts. And the rest was spending. Do you reject that? Therefore, without the stimulus, we would have higher taxes and less demand. You know, you could educate yourself for once.



    Correction. You have no reply. And you are genetically incapable of admitting you are wrong.
    Look at the nature of the "tax cuts". Much of it went to pay down credit card and mortgage debt. That is why we did not get the multiplier effect we expected.

    Was there some short term positives, yes. The question is it woth the long term cost. We will spend about $800 billion on stimulus. That means at a normalized 5% interest rate on the 10 year it will cost us $40 billion per year forever. So many feel that the short term benefit is outweighted by the long term cost.

    So the next generation will pay $40 billion each year so that we would have a better economy for 1-2 quarters in 2010. I think that is a lousy deal for my son.

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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Easy. One merely needs to look at the actual stimulus bill. The Stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts. And the rest was spending. Do you reject that?
    Yes. A 'tax credit' is not the same thing as a 'tax cut'.....You do know the difference do you not?


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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't take very long to resort to the, "you's a racist", argument.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059007404 your post 256, you say the same thing. That is your trump card, and a lame one at that.
    You have no substance, and your style is a joke...like the emperor who has no clothes....
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    Re: Obama Says Commitment to Clean Energy Will Boost Jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, who's taxes got cut? The welfare class?
    Nice fallacy of changing the subject. Do you reject that the stimulus was 36.6% tax cuts and the rest spending? Tell me how without the stimulus there would be lower taxes and more demand.

    Business taxes weren't cut. You know, the folks that actually put people to work?
    Technically not true. As the Republicans like to point out, much of the business at stake is small businesses reported on schedule C of the form 1040. The same return that various tax credits went to.

    I see you don't want to admit that the stimulus resulted in less taxes and more demand. But I have realized honesty is something you do not think highly of.
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