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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's irrelevant that he is gay.

    Nope, and I showed you why.


    I prefer transparency.
    They could of done it better but I want people to find classified information and I want them to publish it in a reasonable manner.

    Even if it aids the enemy in a time of combat.


    I don't care if people break the law, in this regard.
    Then I am sorry to say Harry, but in this regard you are just as dangerous as the enemy, because you would do things that aid them.


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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    If you're going to grant the press the right to publish classified material when it the information within is of substantial public concern that's something I can agree with, but if you grant them that right you must do so on the assumption that they will do so in a responsible manner, and if they don't then they need to be held into account, this guy just took a ****load of raw intelligence and dumped it on the internet, if his organizations would have gone through rigorous investigation of the source material they could have left out the parts that needlessly put peoples lives in danger, but they didn't which is why they are liable for the damages caused by their negligence both civily and criminally.
    First of all it's not a granted right. If anyone obtains classified information there is nothing stopping them from giving it to the press. The point of classifying information is not to take away a public right, but to increase security in order to reduce the potential of the information falling into public hands. Once the public has it, they have the freedom to do what they want with it.

    The source of this leak is not wikileaks, but someone in the military. That makes it an internal military problem. It's not the public's problem if the military security was breached.

    Lastly... as far as I know, in the upcoming release of more documents, Wikileaks is editing out key names of deployed troops and is taking a more cautious stance on the personal information released.

    The info got leaked, now the public might as well read into it. We really are not given much information about how this war is really going and I think it would be useful info to know.

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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope, and I showed you why.
    You didn't show me anything.
    He was mad and gay, alright the info still got released.

    I doesn't matter why he did it, he did it.


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    Even if it aids the enemy in a time of combat.
    It won't.

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    Then I am sorry to say Harry, but in this regard you are just as dangerous as the enemy, because you would do things that aid them.


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    Well, I guess I just don't buy the "it's classified, that's all you need to know" reason.
    Sounds like an excellent way to abuse their power.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You didn't show me anything.
    He was mad and gay, alright the info still got released.

    I doesn't matter why he did it, he did it.

    It certainly does matter why he did it, so that the military can prevent this mess from occurring in the future. I think we need to look at why.


    It won't.

    Well, I feel so much better then....Oh wait....

    A spokesman for the Taliban is quoted by a British broadcaster saying they are combing through the documents looking for names of Afghan informants. "We know how to punish them," Zabihullah Mujahid told Channel 4 News.

    Pentagon Search WikiLeaks Documents to Protect Sources From Taliban Revenge - ABC News
    Yeah, they won't.....


    Well, I guess I just don't buy the "it's classified, that's all you need to know" reason.
    Sounds like an excellent way to abuse their power.

    Oh brother....Ok then tell us what you would do if you had access to everything classified then?


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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It certainly does matter why he did it, so that the military can prevent this mess from occurring in the future. I think we need to look at why.
    Because he's gay right....

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    Oh brother....Ok then tell us what you would do if you had access to everything classified then?


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    Release it based on actually need for secrecy.
    You know stuff that would actually aid people that seriously intend to physically harm others.

    Withholding information on Pakistan when they are taking our tax money and sending it to the purported enemy is not right.
    Afghan police vehicles, that we gave them, showing up in the hands of the Taliban, is a waste.
    Military members accidentally killing journalists, should be shown as true and not run through the spin machine by higher officers.

    Things like that should be let loose.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    The fact he was gay(or assumption, this is actually the first I heard of it) is entirely irrelevant. Most gay people, like most strait people, are able to honor their commitments and live within the law. Some gay people, just like some strait people, cannot be trusted.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Because he's gay right....
    If that was one of the reasons then yes we must consider that he was acting out partly against don't ask don't tell.


    Release it based on actually need for secrecy.
    Who determines that? You?


    You know stuff that would actually aid people that seriously intend to physically harm others.
    Yes, because in war, no one should get harmed....


    Withholding information on Pakistan when they are taking our tax money and sending it to the purported enemy is not right.

    Can you see any down side at all by calling out Pakistan?


    Afghan police vehicles, that we gave them, showing up in the hands of the Taliban, is a waste.
    And you have what credentials that I should listen to your opinion on what to do concerning the training up of Afghan police?

    Military members accidentally killing journalists, should be shown as true and not run through the spin machine by higher officers.
    What? so you think that the military is killing journalists why? because they are journalists?


    Things like that should be let loose.
    So in other words you want to use classified information to damage the US military in any way you can.....Ok then,


    BTW, you didn't address the middle of my last response, why?


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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If that was one of the reasons then yes we must consider that he was acting out partly against don't ask don't tell.
    It is irrelevant.
    Your making this stupid now.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who determines that? You?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, because in war, no one should get harmed....
    Then why are you mad about the documents being released?

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    Can you see any down side at all by calling out Pakistan?
    Who's calling them out?


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And you have what credentials that I should listen to your opinion on what to do concerning the training up of Afghan police?
    My credentials are, you asking me what I would do.

    Well I know one thing for sure, that letting the police vehicles end up in the hands of the Taliban, isn't successful training.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? so you think that the military is killing journalists why? because they are journalists?
    They have killed 2 Reuters journalists.


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So in other words you want to use classified information to damage the US military in any way you can.....Ok then,
    That's exactly what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    BTW, you didn't address the middle of my last response, why?


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    I read over it to quickly and my response wasn't accurate.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If that was one of the reasons then yes we must consider that he was acting out partly against don't ask don't tell.
    That makes absolutely no sense. How is this acting out against DADT?
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    Re: WikiLeaks Founder Describes Possibility of Casualties as Acceptable Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That makes absolutely no sense. How is this acting out against DADT?

    On his Facebook account he had made some suggestion that he was upset at this policy, and that they (the military) would pay.


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