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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

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    Of course not. I said it in dispute of your characterization of the man.
    In what way does that show that he will kill 3000 people?

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its a fact. The question is why. Exactly how is that a straw man? Explain yourself.
    Because we don't know the details as to why and it may be a totally dissimilar situation.
    There's no point bringing it up if you don't have all the facts.
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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    In what way does that show that he will kill 3000 people?
    It doesn't. Nor did I say it did. It simply paints a realistic picture of what this man truely believes.

    Because we don't know the details as to why and it may be a totally dissimilar situation.
    There's no point bringing it up if you don't have all the facts.
    Actually, we do to a point.

    [T]he church exists only on blueprints. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency overseeing reconstruction, has not finalized the exchange of land needed to provide the congregation with a new home near ground zero."

    Yet they found time to approve the Mosque. The same question is still on the table. Why?

    Why do you want to look past the church which was actually destroyed and caught in "red tape" when the Mosque went right through the committee?


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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    It doesn't. Nor did I say it did. It simply paints a realistic picture of what this man truely believes.
    So what?
    A lot of other people believe the exact same thing.
    Should we now deny people the ability to own homes and businesses because of what they believe?

    What happens if what you believe becomes socially criminal?
    Should you be denied your Constitutional rights?

    You know something, we have the freedom of thought and association.
    I thought conservatives were for the literal interpretation of The Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Actually, we do.

    [T]he church exists only on blueprints. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency overseeing reconstruction, has not finalized the exchange of land needed to provide the congregation with a new home near ground zero."

    Yet they found time to approve the Mosque. The same question is still on the table. Why?

    Why do you want to look past the church which was actually destroyed and caught in "red tape" when the Mosque went right through the committee?


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    I think someone else has already pointed out that they want to build on land owned by the port authority.
    A whole different sack of potatoes.
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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    It doesn't. Nor did I say it did. It simply paints a realistic picture of what this man truely believes.



    Actually, we do to a point.

    [T]he church exists only on blueprints. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency overseeing reconstruction, has not finalized the exchange of land needed to provide the congregation with a new home near ground zero."

    Yet they found time to approve the Mosque. The same question is still on the table. Why?

    Why do you want to look past the church which was actually destroyed and caught in "red tape" when the Mosque went right through the committee?


    Greek Orthodox Church destroyed on 9/11 still not rebuilt | One Minute Lawyer
    The difference is the Church can still be rebuilt where it originally stood, but they want to move it to a different location. So the Church and Port Authority are going through talks.

    [QUOTE]The church has for several years wanted to build the new St. Nicholas a block northeast of its original home on Cedar Street. But doing so would require trading land with the Port Authority, and an agreement has proven elusive. In the meantime, the church designed a domed marble complex that would be six times the size of its original home, and far more expensive.

    Both St. Nicholas and the Port Authority are eager to resolve the issues quickly, especially since the authority plans to pick a contractor to build the southern perimeter wall for the entire site this summer, and it needs title to the church’s property to proceed. But officials involved in the talks say there remain substantial differences over the size of the church complex and the amount of money the Port Authority will contribute to building it.[\QUOTE]

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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So what?
    A lot of other people believe the exact same thing.
    A lot of other people aren't planning to build a Mosque so close to 9.11

    Should we now deny people the ability to own homes and businesses because of what they believe?

    What happens if what you believe becomes socially criminal?
    Should you be denied your Constitutional rights?
    Is that what I advocated? Are you really relating 9.11 to regular people purchasing a home?

    You know something, we have the freedom of thought and association.
    I thought conservatives were for the literal interpretation of The Constitution.
    Absolutely. That doesn't mean we can ignore the largest terrorist attack in history either when weighing something as emotionally driven as this. Do we not have to look out for the public good?

    I think someone else has already pointed out that they want to build on land owned by the port authority.
    A whole different sack of potatoes.
    10 years is a lot of potatoes
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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    A lot of other people aren't planning to build a Mosque so close to 9.11
    Again so what?
    You don't own the property and you don't make the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Is that what I advocated? Are you really relating 9.11 to regular people purchasing a home?
    Of course, you're advocating someone not being able to build a home for the their religious services because someone else, that had no connection with them, did something bad.

    It's moronic.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Absolutely. That doesn't mean we can ignore the largest terrorist attack in history either when weighing something as emotionally driven as this. Do we not have to look out for the public good?
    It's in the past, that mosque won't cause more people to die.
    Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    10 years is a lot of potatoes
    It is to me to but I don't run NY and neither do you.
    The issue with the church is different than the issue with the mosque.
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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Absolutely. That doesn't mean we can ignore the largest terrorist attack in history either when weighing something as emotionally driven as this. Do we not have to look out for the public good?
    So basically we should ignore the Constitution when it requires conclusions we don't like.

    Conservatives and liberals really aren't all that dissimilar, are they?

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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So what?
    A lot of other people believe the exact same thing.
    Should we now deny people the ability to own homes and businesses because of what they believe?

    What happens if what you believe becomes socially criminal?
    Should you be denied your Constitutional rights?

    You know something, we have the freedom of thought and association.
    I thought conservatives were for the literal interpretation of The Constitution.
    Be careful. You'll probably be labeled a fake libertarian for not jumping on the "No Mosque" band wagon.

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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Be careful. You'll probably be labeled a fake libertarian for not jumping on the "No Mosque" band wagon.
    We're supposed to be against the mosque? Nobody ever tells me anything ...

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    Re: NYPOST: Hamas supports Ground Zero Mosque

    As far as people on the right go Hussein Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.........
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