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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I cannot believe that the majority of Afghani people want to live under this sort of tyranny. So, how is the Taliban able to exercise this kind of control over their lives?
    They kill people that disagree with them?

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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They kill people that disagree with them?
    I agree. But why does the majority remain in captivity to the tyranny of the few, when they could easily overwhelm them and kill the people who threaten their lives? I don't get that.

    In all seriousness, wouldn't you fight back?

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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

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    Our President lacks a basic understanding of what constitutes human rights, and the necessity to speak out against tyranny when he is faced with it. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama has never done so, though he has been faced with multiple opportunities to speak out against Islamic intollerance, Islamic bigotry, Islamic-backed anti-Semitic hate (and propaganda in the news media) and for me - Islamic homophobia - the persecution of gays in the Middle East. Gays voted 98% for Mr. Obama, but he has shown himself to remain moot even on the most elementary questions of human dignity.

    This administration has taken a silent stance on basic human rights ... and like the United Nations and Clinton Administration in 1994 (during the Rwandan Genocide) ... dare not speak out against Islam and its unfolding tragedies for fear of upsetting the left-wing, anti-Semitic, pro-terrorist faction within our nation.
    I'm not sure what the downside would be of President Obama weighing in on stories like that...but I'd like to see him do it. How could it make things any worse? "The Taliban's decision to violate basic human rights is in complete contrast to its desire to have a place on the world stage. This should galvanize us in our determination to bring peace to Afghanistan," or some-such.
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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree. But why does the majority remain in captivity to the tyranny of the few, when they could easily overwhelm them and kill the people who threaten their lives? I don't get that.

    In all seriousness, wouldn't you fight back?
    Probably because their citizens like OUR citizens fight with this idea that you can combat an enemy like this in a loving, caring, and gentile manner. And of course...when you aren't as viscous and ruthless towards them as they are towards you, they win. Or if you just ignore them the problem will go away.

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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree. But why does the majority remain in captivity to the tyranny of the few, when they could easily overwhelm them and kill the people who threaten their lives? I don't get that.

    In all seriousness, wouldn't you fight back?
    One only has to look at Nazi treatment of Jews to see that it must not be easy. Orrrr, my own inner-city Chicago neighborhoods where children are killed and no one speaks out to identify the perps.
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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And we wanna try and make a deal with these people....

    Grrrr, it's impossible to wipe them out, Afghanistan is a quagmire. But I'd hate to see the Afghan people fall under such a regime ever again, not that Kharzai's government is any better, but at least they're not directly stoning people to death.

    **** the Taliban, buncha assholes.

    And for the love of god, I would really appreciate it if this thread doesn't break down into Christianity vs. Islam, or Anti-Islam sentiments coming in here.
    It's proof positive that you can't make people change and that the entire world doesn't want "democracy."

    Best to leave them be, let the crazies kill each other and eventually all the stoning nonsense will weed itself out.
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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Rational critisism of Islam is always welcome.

    I don't like the way it's instituted in the Middle East at all, Sharia courts are barbaric, one of many examples of how I dislike institutionalized Islam.

    What I'm reffering to, and I should have been more specific in my OP, was that I don't wanna hear the same old bull that all Islam Means Terror. Simply not true.

    so who really believes that Islam = terror in such general terms in here? Why must we have this caveat to every thing we discuss muslim today? Islam may not equal terror, which I am sure your remembrance of that is no solace to those buried up to their shoulders awaiting the first stone.


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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree. But why does the majority remain in captivity to the tyranny of the few, when they could easily overwhelm them and kill the people who threaten their lives? I don't get that.

    In all seriousness, wouldn't you fight back?
    ME??? Oh HELL yes...and by doing so (at least in THIS country) I would have bleeding hearts calling me an evil sadistic bastard for fighting back in a ruthless manner. But when you are fighting extremists you HAVE to be just as ruthless. they arent motivated by understanding, and empathy, and love, and tolerance. They are motivated by zealous execution of thier beliefs.

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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I cannot believe that the majority of Afghani people want to live under this sort of tyranny. So, how is the Taliban able to exercise this kind of control over their lives?
    They've got to want it enough to fight for it. Until that point, there's nothing we can do about it. If they ain't willing to fight, they ain't gonna be able to hold it; and the situation will quickly reverse without us supporting it.

    It's really odd to think about why they would put up with such obvious oppression. Some of it is religious blindness, some of it is oppression backed by force. You think about how we grew up and what we were taught was valuable and right and then look at a place like Afghanistan, it's mind boggling. Different culture and different rules and some of which is barbaric. I think it is very hard for people like us to contemplate the mindset of people stuck in theocracy.
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    Re: Taliban stones man and woman to death for allegedly having affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They've got to want it enough to fight for it. Until that point, there's nothing we can do about it. If they ain't willing to fight, they ain't gonna be able to hold it; and the situation will quickly reverse without us supporting it.

    It's really odd to think about why they would put up with such obvious oppression. Some of it is religious blindness, some of it is oppression backed by force. You think about how we grew up and what we were taught was valuable and right and then look at a place like Afghanistan, it's mind boggling. Different culture and different rules and some of which is barbaric. I think it is very hard for people like us to contemplate the mindset of people stuck in theocracy.
    Our European decedents put up with this **** for a few hundred years.

    It's not a new concept.
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