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    Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    (CNN) -- Hal Turner, an online radio "shock jock" and blogger, was convicted on Friday of threatening to kill three federal judges in Chicago, Illinois, in retaliation for a ruling they made that upheld handgun bans, government officials said.


    Turner was arrested and charged in June 2009 for posting incendiary comments that said the judges involved in the case deserved to be killed. The three judges he threatened, who had upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and the Oak Park suburb, testified at the trial.

    Now I can't speak for anybody else, but you don't go around advocating the murder of judges if you don't agree with their decisions. Looks like Turner is not only a whack job, but now a convict too, and deservedly so. Hopefully he will get enough prison time to reflect on what what he did.


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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now I can't speak for anybody else, but you don't go around advocating the murder of judges if you don't agree with their decisions. Looks like Turner is not only a whack job, but now a convict too, and deservedly so. Hopefully he will get enough prison time to reflect on what what he did.


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    As a convict, does that mean he will not be allowed to own guns any more?
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    As a convict, does that mean he will not be allowed to own guns any more?
    He can always whittle a bar of soap into one. He will have plenty of time to learn that. LOL.
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Turner was also ****-stain neo-nazi, I hope he gets brutally killed in prison.
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now I can't speak for anybody else, but you don't go around advocating the murder of judges if you don't agree with their decisions. Looks like Turner is not only a whack job, but now a convict too, and deservedly so. Hopefully he will get enough prison time to reflect on what what he did.


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    So saying someone deserves to die should be a crime? I can't believe you are actually advocating that someone should go to prison for saying they think someone should die. I have a feeling that the conviction will be overturned. If he actually threatened them meaning he actually told the judges that he would kill them or have them killed then that would actually be threatening someone. Saying you think someone should die is not threatening them nor should it be a crime. How many of us said a certian killer should die, someone should beat the **** crap out of someone or someone should have something happen to them?
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So saying someone deserves to die should be a crime? I can't believe you are actually advocating that someone should go to prison for saying they think someone should die. I have a feeling that the conviction will be overturned. If he actually threatened them meaning he actually told the judges that he would kill them or have them killed then that would actually be threatening someone. Saying you think someone should die is not threatening them nor should it be a crime. How many of us said a certian killer should die, someone should beat the **** crap out of someone or someone should have something happen to them?
    Here's the deal. He was advocating the death of judges on his radio show, and (this is key) posted the names and addresses of those judges on his web site. This goes beyond just saying that they should die. You cannot advocate death, and then post the home addresses of those you advocate death for. Turner is nothing more than a terrorist provacateur, and the verdict is appropriate.
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal. He was advocating the death of judges on his radio show, and (this is key) posted the names and addresses of those judges on his web site. This goes beyond just saying that they should die. You cannot advocate death, and then post the home addresses of those you advocate death for. Turner is nothing more than a terrorist provacateur, and the verdict is appropriate.
    Unless he said he was going to kill them or have them killed then he did not threaten anyone. The only illegal thing he may have done is post unlisted addresses if these judges had unlisted addresses. Him saying he thinks so and so should die and posting their pictures and address is not proof that he threatened the judges. If I post a picture of someone who is behind bars,name of prison they are in and I say I think that individual should die, did I threaten that individual? No I did not. NO if I sent that person behind bars a letter saying I'm going to do something to him or have something done to him then that would be a threat.
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

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    Turner was also ****-stain neo-nazi, I hope he gets brutally killed in prison.
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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Turner was also ****-stain neo-nazi, I hope he gets brutally killed in prison.
    He'll probably end up being the figurehead leader of whatever Aryan Nations group is active in that institution until one of the blacks or hispanics stabs him in the yard or something.

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    Re: Jury finds shock jock Hal Turner guilty of threatening judges

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Unless he said he was going to kill them or have them killed then he did not threaten anyone. The only illegal thing he may have done is post unlisted addresses if these judges had unlisted addresses. Him saying he thinks so and so should die and posting their pictures and address is not proof that he threatened the judges. If I post a picture of someone who is behind bars,name of prison they are in and I say I think that individual should die, did I threaten that individual? No I did not.
    I respectfully disagree with you here, and I use the argument of shouting fire in a crowded theater. But I have just found something disturbing on this. Turner was a paid informant for the FBI. Was Turner paid by the government to provoke members on the right to incite violence? I don't know. The jury said no, but something stinks about this. Sure, Turner is an asshole, but this angle needs to be investigated. This is the kind of stuff the government got caught doing to left wing activists in the 1960's, so they are definitely capable of this kind of behavior. This needs to be looked into further. Did the government use Turner, and then dump him?
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