Vandalism and protests would be a massive problem. Protests fine. Vandalism not, I hope we can agree on that.
Ofcourse. I don't think vandalism is their worry should they build it.
The problem is an increasing attitude of negativety towards Muslims in general.
And why do you suppose that is? Could it be that in times of attack like 9/11 we heard stone cold silence from these supposed moderates? Or worse yet in the words of Imam Rauf, that the US was "accomplice to the events of 9/11"? PUHLEEZE!
I'm sorry when did he lie about anything? I just haven't heard him say anything that he claimed to be right, but wasn't... or can you prove me wrong there?
And if you're reffering to his inability to call Hammas a terrorist organization... that's not a lie. It's true that Hammas is a terrorist organization, not willing to say so is an error in judgement, not a lie.
One of the biggest lies so far is that they are building this as an "outreach center"...
Yeah right! :roll: Tell me why when this first came to the public's attention that it was referred to as a Mosque, obviously to shroud it in religious freedoms of the US, then as the argument heated up, all of the sudden it was a "Cultural Center" with a mosque in it....:roll: The next one that Rauf thought that no one would pick up on was the naming of that Mosque "Cordoba House" and the significance of that name in the history of Muslim caliphate in the 700's, I have already pointed that one out. Another is the masking of funding for this Mosque, where is it coming from, and whom is behind it?
Shall I continue?
"Mosque of Conquest"
You invented the term to give your argument an emotional appeal. It is not a mosque of Conquest.
No, I am calling it what it is. The name, and other aspects make it so.
I understand perfectly the threat of Radical Islam. I understand what is even more sinister, using that threat to scare us into giving up our rights and freedoms. I.E. Patriot Act, and all similar legislation enacted in the Western World.
Oh spare me the US is more threat to US citizens than radical Islam crap will ya? We either take on this threat to win, or get ready to submit. It is that simple.
Well at least we're not still claiming it's "Towering Over".
I never heard your answer as to how much of the Twin Towers are rebuilt yet?
What are you talking about?
It is real simple, I read you as one that believes that we can make friends with these radicals, and if that is your presentation, then you clearly do NOT understand what we face.
So who's fault is it then that nothing has been rebuilt. Or is it just having a giant hole in the ground reminds Americans of why they should continue to be afraid and tow the line.
My guess would be that the liberal politicians that have constantly railed for stupid things like a museum in the lobby that highlights America as a horrible place and glorified Muslim imperialism, to the inability of liberal politicians to lead in NYC and get this thing done.
Do we now institute law based on mob rule? Since when did this happen?
Sorry, but either the peoples voice means something, or it doesn't....Liberals have already shown clearly that they can't handle the mantel of leadership in more than one way, I guess they will simply NOT get the message.
The point is, the people are angry about this, I can't say I blame them... but it is important to understand this is about Freedom of Religion and Private Property Rights. IF the people want to institute an Anti-Islam Clause into those things then I suppose they can do that. But until then, you can protest it all you want, but it's their land.
More strawman arguments I see.
j-mac
