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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by iclimb1998 View Post
    The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
    Right, because no religion ever inspired great works of art, or music, or architecture, or rich cultural traditions, or any guiding philosophies which could have helped shepherd humanity toward being better in any way. Because, you know, that Golden Rule has kept more people in darkness than anything else I can think of.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok Joe, now put on your teaching hat here, and show me in the AT article exactly where the misrepresentations are if you would be so kind. And be specific with actual back up sourcing to show and prove your hypothesis.....


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    It starts with the premise. Why is the article written? Who has suggested anywhere that anyone take up these laws that are mentioned. Have you looked at laws under old Christian law? Like the letter on Christianity, many have over the years written and misunderstood Christian positions and used Christina writings to justify all manner of evil. Same with Islam.

    "Applying the Old Testament Law Today" by J. Daniel Hays

    Many of these laws don't really apply today ad are largely ignored. But we've seen in this country Christians abusing their wives, using the bible to justify slavery and segregation and other abuses. The probem is more how some third world countries misinterpret the word (remember muslims are believers in the book and broters and sisters to both Christans and jews). This si the problem, and the American (non)Thinker does little more than play to the prejudices of it's readers, who seldom if ever question the opening premise.

    Agian, there is no spreading of sharia law. The vast majority ofmuslims live leife little differently than Christians do. For them is is more about jsutice and fairness than it is these silly misrepresentations.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Obama, your hero, speaks as he always does, as if the American people are stupid, down his nose.
    That's because most Americans are stupid. Did you see that study they did where like 37% of Americans couldn't locate the U.S. on a map, of the U.S.!

    Steven Shehori: Poll: 37% of Americans Unable to Locate America on Map of America

    You try going to Columbia University and Graduating from Harvard Law at the top of your class and then try talking logic and common political sense to a bunch of yahoos who can't even find their own country on a map and hate you because of the sound of your name. You might not sound so polite either.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Liberal education at the "major American universities". LOL.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    That's because most Americans are stupid. Did you see that study they did where like 37% of Americans couldn't locate the U.S. on a map, of the U.S.!

    Steven Shehori: Poll: 37% of Americans Unable to Locate America on Map of America

    You try going to Columbia University and Graduating from Harvard Law at the top of your class and then try talking logic and common political sense to a bunch of yahoos who can't even find their own country on a map and hate you because of the sound of your name. You might not sound so polite either.
    I can't believe this has to be pointed out to you, but I don't think that story is 100% accurate.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    That's because most Americans are stupid. Did you see that study they did where like 37% of Americans couldn't locate the U.S. on a map, of the U.S.!

    Steven Shehori: Poll: 37% of Americans Unable to Locate America on Map of America

    You try going to Columbia University and Graduating from Harvard Law at the top of your class and then try talking logic and common political sense to a bunch of yahoos who can't even find their own country on a map and hate you because of the sound of your name. You might not sound so polite either.
    No one treated people like they were dumb like Bush and republicans did, and republicans do.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I can't believe this has to be pointed out to you, but I don't think that story is 100% accurate.
    Sources? Or is this one of those forums where people post opinions that aren't based on facts? I thought they only did that in the conservatives forum?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think everyone here is forgetting to realize that no matter whom the president was they would have done the same thing as Obama did, just maybe not in such a muddy way.
    The strange part of this is. I dont think he was muddy at all. He has never said whether he personally supports the mosque being built or not, nor should he. All he has said, in BOTH statements , was that he supported America's constitution, and that because we support freedom of religion they have a right to build it.

    It is very odd to me that more Republicans aren't standing up and saying yes, we may not agree with our President on a LOT of things. But here.... this issue ... because we support Freedom of Religion and have fought relentlessly in times past for our rights, we agree and stand behind him. I think they lost an opportunity to show that its not about the man in office, its about what they believe in and fight for. But seems like they can't put their partisanship aside to think for a moment. Its just...President Obama said it so we have to be against it, lets find a way.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Sources? Or is this one of those forums where people post opinions that aren't based on facts? I thought they only did that in the conservatives forum?
    The first line of your link:

    Editor's note: This post is a satire.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think everyone here is forgetting to realize that no matter whom the president was they would have done the same thing as Obama did, just maybe not in such a muddy way.
    Of course. Bush would have done the same thing and conservatives would have praised him for holding true to the constitution. This is just an excuse for Obamaphobes to attack Obama.

    Obamaphobe: oʊˈbɑːməˈfō-bē
    People who have an exaggerated, usually inexplicable fear of Barack Obama. This psychological disorder is usually associated with a fear of uncertainty or a fear of change and is most prominent in middle aged and elderly Caucasians. This fear stems from the fact that Barack Obama doesn't fit the traditional profile of an American president, due to his ethnicity, his birth place and place of childhood (Hawaii and Indonesia rather than Middle America), that his father was a Muslim instead of a fundamentalist Christian and that he enacts socialist democratic policies that are more prominent in wealthy, northern European countries such as universal healthcare. Ultra-conservatives have shown interesting responses during psychological studies. Some, when shown pictures of Barack Obama for prolonged periods of time (more than one minute) began trembling uncontrollably. Others started sobbing heavily, and others started growling and trying to bite the picture like a rabid dog. After several hours some exhibited symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome and started speaking affectionately of the president and his policies. Soon after the pictures were removed however they appeared to be back to normal. This was determined when psychologist asked the question "What do you think of Barack Obama" and most responded that "He is a terrorist" or a "He is a Muslim lover".
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