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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by iclimb1998 View Post
    The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
    so how did humanity evolve to the point it has when taking into consideration that religion has been the one uniting factor of all human cultures?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so how did humanity evolve to the point it has when taking into consideration that religion has been the one uniting factor of all human cultures?
    We haven't grown, can't you tell?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    so how did humanity evolve to the point it has when taking into consideration that religion has been the one uniting factor of all human cultures?
    A) We evolved in spite of religion, we evolved when we shelved religion for secularism.

    B) If there's one thing religion is not it's a unifying factor.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    You may want to check your facts. Countries that live under Sharia law rarely if ever execute people for having premarital sex.
    Having trouble reading eh? I said "and/or corporal punishment."

    For adultery yes, and even this is dwindling down. Pakistan recently removed adultery from the list of capital crimes. I guess, according to you they are considered heretics?
    It was a change in the penal code not the law. And to my knowledge they did not remove adultery from the list of capital crimes, what they did was reform the Hudood Ordinance so that rape can now be prosecuted in civil rather than sharia court; whereas, prior rape was prosecuted in sharia courts and if the women could not provide the requisite number of male witnesses their accusation of rape was taken as confession to adultery.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by iclimb1998 View Post
    The problem is that religion can't coexist with growth as a species and rational thinking. ANY religion.
    That's a pretty bold statement considering some of the folks on your side (e.g., communists).
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Extremist radical Muslims, including our own president,
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    Take the conspiracy theory arguments to the appropriate forum. Any continued attempts at derailing this thread by insinuating that the President is a muslim will result in poinst and a thread ban.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    A) We evolved in spite of religion, we evolved when we shelved religion for secularism.
    so how did Ancient Egypt, one of the most religious societies in history manage to exist for as long as it did, and be as powerful as it was?
    B) If there's one thing religion is not it's a unifying factor.
    It is a terrific unifying factor, look at the Crusades, you had people from european countries that had been warring for centuries put aside their differences for a common cause, certainly it's not a universal unifying factor, but name one thing that is.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Moderator's Warning:
    President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosqueOne warning was already posted early in this thread, I'll reiterate it here since its been a number of pages.

    Take the conspiracy theory arguments to the appropriate forum. Any continued attempts at derailing this thread by insinuating that the President is a muslim will result in poinst and a thread ban.

    Additionally, as warned earlier, personal attacks and posts dedicated solely to insulting other posters will have action taken against them.

    This is a hot topic, lets try to keep the flames down to a minimum.
    Well Z, you know that what the President is doing will only further that belief by some folks. Frankly I think he'd be smarter to just shut up.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    "That's a pretty bold statement considering some of the folks on your side (e.g., communists)."

    Ha ha, you got me... I would have got away with it if it wasn't for you darn free market capitalists.

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