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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The imam that is building the mosque refuses to admit that hamas is a terrorist orginization. That says alot.
    That's all the evidence I need! The feds should be raiding his house any day as a suspected terrorist. No need to fear anymore my fellow patriot. We won't let these Muslims take over our country, if thats the last thing we do!

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Well, I'm an anarchist so I believe everyone should be able to do whatever the hell they want.
    I don't know what that is but it's not anarchism. You can't do whatever the hell you want if it infringes upon the rights of others. I'm an anarchist, I believe in their intrinsic right to build their Mosque but I don't think that they should build their Mosque and support the intrinsic right of the citizenry to protest against it being built.

    This is an assumption and an example of typical conservative paranoid delusion. The sky is falling! Everyone is after us!
    No it's not an assumption it is based on the available evidence, this Imam has stated that the U.S. was partially responsible for the 9-11 attacks and that OBL was made in the USA he said that less than 3 weeks after the attacks, likewise he refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization and support a Sharia compliant U.S. legal system.


    Could they have thought of a better way to "build bridges"? Maybe.
    If they were interested in building bridges they wouldn't build the Mosque because it is having the exact opposite effect. If they were interested in building bridges they would have built a memorial to the victims of 9-11 or a multicultural community center rather than an Islamic community center. They are not interested in building bridges as made evidently clear by their actions and their stubborn refusal to change their mind as a result of the reaction to those actions.

    I remember when I was a kid there was another kid in my class and we hated each other. Anyway, so the teacher thought it would be a great idea to sit us next to each other in the class. I guess she figured it would force us to be around each other and talk and that we'd realize the other person wasn't so bad after all. Did it work? No. But I'm not naive or paranoid enough to believe that she was doing that to "spite" us.
    Then why didn't they build a multicultural center with a mosque, a church, a synagogue, hindu temple etc? No they built a Mosque doubling as an Islamic community center. Islamic as in non-Muslims need not apply.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    He wants a Sharia compliant U.S., he blamed the U.S. for 9-11 and said OBL was made in the USA less than 3 weeks after the 9-11 attacks, and has refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization. This isn't some a-political kumbaya singing paragon of multiculturalism, he's an Islamist POS and his intentions to incite are abundantly clear as many actual moderate Muslims have readily expressed.
    I'd be really interested to see a psychological study that seeks to find whether conservatives have a higher tendency for fear and paranoia than liberals or moderates. That would explain a lot of the conservative worldview. I know there are studies that have shown conservatives tend to have a greater fear of change, fear of uncertainty and show more tendencies and traits of Social Dominance Orientation than liberals or moderates.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's closer, but can you link all that, just to make sure you actually have it straight.
    Meh meh. I've already done that like ten times, here I'll just give you the link in this thread where I already did it:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058920302

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    I'd be really interested to see a psychological study that seeks to find whether conservatives have a higher tendency for fear and paranoia than liberals or moderates. That would explain a lot of the conservative worldview. I know there are studies that have shown conservatives tend to have a greater fear of change, fear of uncertainty and show more tendencies and traits of Social Dominance Orientation than liberals or moderates.
    Yep, that's the ticket, building a Mosque at ground zero to promote American understanding of Muslims is like building an Orthodox Cathedral at Srebrenica to promote reconciliation between Christians and Muslims, and I'm the one who needs to be studied.

    But hey way to address the points I made, I understand that defense of the indefensible is tuff which is why you must resort the red-herrings.
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 08-16-10 at 11:44 PM.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Meh meh. I've already done that like ten times, here I'll just give you the link in this thread where I already did it:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058920302
    OK, are you sure you read this:

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    If so, I don't think you quite understood it. It is not what you claim and not particular radical at all.

    Nor is either of the other two claims what you say either. He denounces the terrrorist attacks clearly, but much like MLK, who called the US the greatest preyor of violence in the world today, he acknowledges that we have made errors. Only someone radical concerning the US would not admit to that. No one says that excuses 9/11 or terrorist attacks, and they shouldn't, but honesty requires acknowledgement of our own sins as well.

    Frankly, this iman seems far less radical than what you're arguing.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Yep, that's the ticket, building a Mosque at ground zero to promote American understanding of Muslims is like building an Orthodox Cathedral at Srebrenica to promote reconciliation between Christians and Muslims, and I'm the one who needs to be studied.
    Building a Mosque is like building an Orthodox Cathedral at Srebrencia? I've never heard that phrase before. As a matter a fact, I'm pretty sure that's the first time you've posted it! Now I understand! Lets go stop these genocidal Muslims! We can not let this happen! We must uphold our ideal of conservative-anarchism and protest the construction of this building that is only being built to spite all Americans and to foster more division! Lets go stop this insanity! We are in danger! In real danger! Doesn't anyone realize this?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I'm the one who needs to be studied.
    No. Me and you are anarchist not conservatives. I said conservatives.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    How come no one protests the Pentagon for having a mosque?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    How come no one protests the Pentagon for having a mosque?
    Because it'll keep Bill Ayers from trying to blow it up again?
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