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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
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    So let's see, other than trolling what are you adding to the debate?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    The Prof,

    I stand corrected.

    There is a Democrat who is *against* the GZM. Kudo's to Jeff Greene (D-Fl) for standing up against the progressive left and for survivors of Islamic terror.

    Rep. Meek shares the progressive left's view of the GZM and will probably not make a statement until his constituents turn against him.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Which means?

    Come on, stand proud and say it. Do you hope the building gets blown up? That it collapses? What?

    I didn't say that, but I have no doubt that those progressives in here misrepresenting my thoughts will now attribute that to me....I guess it only takes someone to say it eh?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I didn't say that, but I have no doubt that those progressives in here misrepresenting my thoughts will now attribute that to me....I guess it only takes someone to say it eh?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Right, I've got a question since you're a new yorker.

    I'm trying to look at the maps here and what I see is this.

    Ground Zero is flanked by Three "major" streets it looks like. Barclay on its north, Church on its east, and West St on its West.

    It also seems like it's main Subway stop would be "World Trade Center Station".

    Now it appears that this proposed Mosque is in a building on the opposite side of the WTC on Barclay, a good 3 blocks from the next major street street (Chambers). Additionally, it appears to me that the "World Trade Center" subway would be the prime subway stop servicing it.

    Now, I'll fully admit my only real means of how to view a city is inspired by DC because its the only major metro city I've spent a fair bit of time in. However, in DC, generally the blocks surrouding a Metro Stop that's primarily serviced by said Metro stop are generally viewed as that "area". So the Dupont Circle area is generally considered the multiple blocks within walking distance to the Dupont Circle metro, with that being the closest metro stop for those areas. The China Town section of the city is actually NOT considered just "China Town" but the multiple blocks that would call the China Town metro stop their closest Metro station.

    To me, the fact its "2 blocks away" means no more than going into a small town and saying that a store front is "two buildings down" from another. In relation to the city and its size and scope and its infastructure its essentially part of the same generalized area.

    I guess the only difference would be is if Cortlandt St Station is considered more the "World Trade Center" station then well, "World Trade Center" station is. If that's the case it would possibly change my view a bit...but as it stands, to me 2 blocks in a large metro city layout still seems like "next door" to me.
    I mean, it's certainly in the vicinity of the WTC, but there are absolutely tons of things in that area that make it seem less so. The exact location is here:

    45-47 park place, ny, ny - Google Maps

    I think it's different from DC in that just because you're a few blocks away from something, you wouldn't really consider that the same area. City hall park is about the same distance away, and it seems like an entirely different area.

    I guess the best way to describe it is this: I've used the subway stops at Chambers St and park place probably a hundred times. When you're using either stop, you don't get the feeling that you're anywhere near the WTC. The fulton st 4/5 stop has two exits: One that's marked on the map on the corner of broadway, the other that's unmarked and is actually located on church street directly across the st from the site. When you walk out of the closer exit, you definitely get the feeling you're there because you're looking directly at the (lack of) construction. When you walk out of the one on broadway, you sort of do, but only because St. Paul's is right there and there's nothing else blocking your view.

    I don't know if it's because of the density of the buildings or because of the way the streets in lower manhattan are so poorly laid out, but you never really feel like you're near the site until you can actually physically see it. If you're a few blocks away and in between two streets, it feels like you might as well be in Queens.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So let's see, other than trolling what are you adding to the debate?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I didn't say that, but I have no doubt that those progressives in here misrepresenting my thoughts will now attribute that to me....I guess it only takes someone to say it eh?


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    If that's not what you mean, I'm open to correction. You said you hope the building is damned. What does that mean?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

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    The Prof,

    I stand corrected.

    There is a Democrat who is *against* the GZM. Kudo's to Jeff Greene (D-Fl) for standing up against the progressive left and for survivors of Islamic terror.

    Rep. Meek shares the progressive left's view of the GZM and will probably not make a statement until his constituents turn against him.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Actually, Harry Reid just came out against the mosque, too.

    The Plum Line - Breaking: Reid calls for mosque to be built "someplace else"
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If that's not what you mean, I'm open to correction. You said you hope the building is damned. What does that mean?

    I am saying that I hope that the lying Imam Rauf and his backers decide to move the location of their Mosque of conquest.

    I am saying that if they don't I hope they can't find one crew to work on it in NY.

    I am saying that if they do build it I hope that it is befallen with bad luck the entire time it is allowed to remain there.

    And I hope that no one gets hurt in this.


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