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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did you read how they were telling the church that the Dome couldn't be higher than they visitor center? Yeah, ok.


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    Perhaps the reason for the delay is because the church wants to build on land that is actually owned by the port authority, which is a bureaucratic hellhole, while the mosque is building on property owned by private investors.

    I can guarantee that if the church had purchased land two blocks away from the site from a private investor, it would be running already.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did you read how they were telling the church that the Dome couldn't be higher than they visitor center? Yeah, ok.


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    And? It still has nothing to do with the church being a church. It's still entirely irrelevant to the mosque story.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's largely an irrelevant issue.
    no, it's rauf's stated purpose

    We're arguing over, whether or not, a religion should be allowed to build a building for themselves.
    you seem to be

    i'm rather looking at how relations are improved or worsened

    cuz i'm obsessed with politics, y'know, elections

    in other words---bottom line

    come, november!

    hey, we all have 9-11 to observe in the meantime

    i wonder what that's gonna look like in the neighborhood around the burlington coat factory
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Perhaps the reason for the delay is because the church wants to build on land that is actually owned by the port authority, which is a bureaucratic hellhole, while the mosque is building on property owned by private investors.

    I can guarantee that if the church had purchased land two blocks away from the site from a private investor, it would be running already.
    No, the church owns the land, they only sold the parking lot. In any case they did offer to move the church a block away and that was scuttled as well. I just think there is huge hypocrisy going on here.

    BTW, you mention private investors....Who are they?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL! (your tone)

    anyway, rauf's the fella who says he's trying to improve relations with his neighbors

    obama backs him up (well, that was before the "walk back," but later burton "elaborated" on obama's "clarification")

    bottom line, it's not working

    by all means, go for it!
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, the church owns the land, they only sold the parking lot. In any case they did offer to move the church a block away and that was scuttled as well. I just think there is huge hypocrisy going on here.

    BTW, you mention private investors....Who are they?


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    There would only be hypocrisy if the reasoning behind preventing the church was solely on the basis that it is a Christian place of worship.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And? It still has nothing to do with the church being a church. It's still entirely irrelevant to the mosque story.
    Says you. Others feel differently.


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There would only be hypocrisy if the reasoning behind preventing the church was solely on the basis that it is a Christian place of worship.
    Why the flap over the dome then?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, the church owns the land, they only sold the parking lot. In any case they did offer to move the church a block away and that was scuttled as well. I just think there is huge hypocrisy going on here.

    BTW, you mention private investors....Who are they?


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    You are not actually showing any of that hypocrisy. The church is being held up by money negotiations, not that it is a church. That is why it has nothing to do with the mosque issue. Nice red herring, really, but that is all it is.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    wha'sup man.....No mystery here that I totally disagree.

    heh, heh.....


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    No, not a mystery.



    BTW, above you talk about feeling. Is feeling the standard? Just asking.

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