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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And that district doesn't get a seat on the zoning board.
    And how many cities in the nation are MORE corrupt than New York?

    There's Chicago....gee, I wonder who's from there?

    There's New Orleans, aka Chocolate City...

    There's Washington DC, on all levels....who's the Big Man there right now? Oh, yeah, he's from Chicago.

    Actually, I can't name a single city who's zoning board isn't influenced by money. That kind makes taking things to the zoning board pointless if you don't have cash.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    whether you sit on a zoning board or not, you as an american have total control over your disposition towards relations between you and any individual, or among you and any group

    no one in this country can force improved relations upon you

    or, at least, that's how it used to be

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Condemning is all they can do, and educating. What results where you expecting? How is your "statistics" proving anything? You still have failed to give me a link citing there support for Hamas.
    Gee....what happened in the history of European Christianity when the corruption of the Church's leaders became too corrupt?

    Oh, that's right.

    They had a schism or two. Some Martin Luther's popped up, leaders who took significant portions of the flock away from the corruption.

    Where's that movement in Islam today?

    ITS NOT HAPPENING. The SAME leaders who presided over Islam in 2001 are still presiding over Islam today, unless they've died of old age.

    NO NEW revelations telling muslims they should stop murdering infidels has been forth coming.

    There has been no change in Islam, and that's because murdering the infidel is one of the most basic tenets of Islam.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whether you sit on a zoning board or not, you as an american have total control over your disposition towards relations between you and any individual, or among you and any group

    no one in this country can force improved relations upon you

    or, at least, that's how it used to be

    before iftar
    How are you in any position to dictate what can be forced apon you and what cannot? You advocate for the dismissal of this mosque which in itself is involving government where it should not be and violating basic freedoms. Double standards? I think so.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Gee....what happened in the history of European Christianity when the corruption of the Church's leaders became too corrupt?

    Oh, that's right.

    They had a schism or two. Some Martin Luther's popped up, leaders who took significant portions of the flock away from the corruption.

    Where's that movement in Islam today?
    So you're saying they remain sympathetic towards such regimes.
    Where is it happening? Muslim armies all over the world are facing and targeting terrorist targets, namely in Lebanon as of late.

    BBC News - Lebanon &#039;kills Fatah al-Islam militant leader&#039;


    NO NEW revelations telling muslims they should stop murdering infidels has been forth coming.
    Murdering infidels is not part of the Qua ran. That is Wahhabism, the allies of the US.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Some Martin Luther's popped up, leaders who took significant portions of the flock away from the corruption.

    Where's that movement in Islam today?

    ITS NOT HAPPENING. The SAME leaders who presided over Islam in 2001 are still presiding over Islam today, unless they've died of old age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon, Edith (1966). Great Ages of Man: The Reformation. Time-Life Books. pp. 120–121.
    It began in 1517 when Martin Luther published The Ninety-Five Theses, and concluded in 1648 with the Treaty of Westphalia that ended years of European religious wars.
    So feel free to compare the two in the year 2132.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    the mosque will be forced to move VOLUNTARILY

    just like ksm will never see manhattan, gitmo will never close, cheney's cia will never be prosecuted, pieface's personal diplomacy with the potentates of persia will never proceed...

    cordoba's friends in ny are under simply way too much heat to sustain

    the mosque will just have to relocate, y'know, to avoid the political extirpation of its friends

    ask senators schumer and gillibrand, ag cuomo, congressmen weiner, mcmahon, hall, owens, bishop...

    except they're not taking any calls today (LOL!)

    actually, i suspect their LINES ARE BUSY (and they rudely ignore call waiting)

    they're all calling rauf!

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    So you're saying they remain sympathetic towards such regimes.
    WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

    Ain't there.

    Ain't none.

    The "moderates" muslims are merely waiting patiently for their side to win.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    How are you in any position to dictate what can be forced apon you and what cannot?
    when it comes to improved relations between mr rauf and myself?

    LOL!

    unbelievable

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the mosque will be forced to move VOLUNTARILY


    Not making sense man.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
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