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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Why are they set apart from participating in shaping world policies?

    Again, I'm not saying that their exclusion was not justified. I am saying, however, that doing so may have led to the growth of Muslim extremism over the years and how radical Muslim extremist saw fit to project their anger at the U.S. on that faithful day.
    Granted, I didn't articulate my point of view very well in making the above statement. However, the point I was trying to make is that perhaps those of radical Islam believe that their voice hasn't been heard in helping to shape world policies. I admit I didn't do a good job of getting my point across. In any event, a snippet of the President's speech from Friday is below. For those who are interested, you can read his entire speech at www.whitehouse.gov.

    Our Founders understood that the best way to honor the place of faith in the lives of our people was to protect their freedom to practice religion. In the Virginia Act of Establishing Religion Freedom, Thomas Jefferson wrote that “all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion.” The First Amendment of our Constitution established the freedom of religion as the law of the land. And that right has been upheld ever since.

    Indeed, over the course of our history, religion has flourished within our borders precisely because Americans have had the right to worship as they choose -– including the right to believe in no religion at all. And it is a testament to the wisdom of our Founders that America remains deeply religious -– a nation where the ability of peoples of different faiths to coexist peacefully and with mutual respect for one another stands in stark contrast to the religious conflict that persists elsewhere around the globe.

    Now, that's not to say that religion is without controversy. Recently, attention has been focused on the construction of mosques in certain communities -– particularly New York. Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of Lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. And the pain and the experience of suffering by those who lost loved ones is just unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. And Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground.

    But let me be clear. As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. (Applause.) And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government is essential to who we are. The writ of the Founders must endure.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Yes, its a fact that the landing gear from one of the planes that flew into the WTC crashed into the Burlington coat factory building. This makes it part of ground zero.
    How does that make it part of ground zero?

    The debris from the site spread across all of lower manhattan - is the entire area part of ground zero?

    btw, the BCF building is 600 feet from the location of the former WTC.
    That's two blocks.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    I knew someone was going to say that. Its hard to define "right" and "left" because here in the U.S. are two parties have spliced the two. The "right" is actually liberal when it comes to economics but socially conservative. The "left" is socially liberally but economically conservative. Hitler was a true conservative in the pre-industrial European sense of the word, which meant social control and a state owned economy.
    And he was economically conservative, was he not?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How does that make it part of ground zero?

    The debris from the site spread across all of lower manhattan - is the entire area part of ground zero?



    That's two blocks.
    The entire area is hallowed ground and is no place for a victorious monument to the superiority of Islam over the USA.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    btw, the BCF building is 600 feet from the location of the former WTC.
    And the Masjid Manhattan is just down the street. PREDATES the WTC even.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The entire area is hallowed ground and is no place for a victorious monument to the superiority of Islam over the USA.
    And who decided that?

    Do you live or work in lower manhattan?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Yes, its a fact that the landing gear from one of the planes that flew into the WTC crashed into the Burlington coat factory building. This makes it part of ground zero.

    btw, the BCF building is 600 feet from the location of the former WTC.
    I think some dust also settled, from the WTC, a few miles away and practically all over the city.

    It should now all be part of Ground Zero.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think some dust also settled, from the WTC, a few miles away and practically all over the city.

    It should now all be part of Ground Zero.
    Thats what i was thinking. :p
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think some dust also settled, from the WTC, a few miles away and practically all over the city.

    It should now all be part of Ground Zero.
    I would imagine some of the dust and smoke made it into the jet stream ... hmmm ...

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I would imagine some of the dust and smoke made it into the jet stream ... hmmm ...
    The whole world is now Ground Zero.

    Call the Middle East, tell em to tear down Mecca and Medina.
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