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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    New York leaders' discomfort - Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com

    23 of 24 ny dems will not return ms haberman's calls

    that's odd, they're usually so outspoken

    tim bishop from ny1, john hall from ny19, bill owens from infamous 23, mike mcmahon representing unlucky 13...

    anthony weiner, who "earned kudos" from the possibly drug imbibing professional leftists at politico for his temper tantrum on the floor:

    YouTube - Raw Video: N.Y. Rep Weiner's Anti-GOP Rant

    anger, anyone?

    contempt?

    senators schumer and gillibrand are strangely silent

    gub wannabe cuomo, where are you?

    president pie-in-the-face, what have you produced?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    QUOTE=Johnny DooWop;1058919729]You're right. I guess he should just throw out America's constitutional values of freedom of religion, and while he's at it, condemn all of the 1 billion Muslims in the world who aren't violent or extremist and deem there religion to be nothing but a cult. I swear, if it weren't for Liberals, all Muslims in this country would probably be in concentration camps.[/QUOTE]


    Leave it to a far out lefty to take a statement out of context............Nothing new here.........
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There's just no objectivity when it comes to President Obama, is there? "I'm a Conservative. I hate Obama. He's a Muslim sympathizer." Reeeeeeedickalas.

    Anyone who has a problem with this statement


    is a fool. No wonder the Republican party is in a shambles. We really ARE The Party of No. Or at least here on DP that's who we've become.
    There is hardly a day goes by that Hussein Obama does not slap the American people in the face be it the Mosque issue, Obama Care, or immigration...........How the left can still defend this guy is beyond me...
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Thank you. Just trying to get people to take a breath, step back from the situation for just a moment, put their emotions aside and see the larger picture here.



    This I also agree with. And if it's proven after following the money trail that funding did, in fact, come from Muslim extremist, the Mosque's owner should either return said funding, allow same to be confiscated by the Dept. of Homeland Security or halt the construction of the Mosque - period!
    If the funding came from terrorists, the mosque should be stopped.

    Period.

    If the funding came from terrorists, the money should be confiscated.

    Period.

    If the funding came from terrorists, the person accepting the funds should have a complete colonoscopy by licensed professional practitioners from the FBI, the CIA, the State Department, and the DHS.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "Osama Bin Laden is a product of the United States", and, "the United States is an accessory to 9/11"? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why the Lefties can't see why this mosque--especially because of it's location--and it's immam--whom refuses to admit that Hamas is a terrorist org--are so offensive.
    Well, Lefties hate America and love people who hate America.

    Why else would they vote for someone like the Messiah or Hillary?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Well, Lefties hate America and love people who hate America.

    Why else would they vote for someone like the Messiah or Hillary?
    Just doing the math, it seems to me, that one who hates the majority of Americans, (which happened to vote for Obama) such as you do, or for whatever reason, is actually the American hater. I mean, just doing the math and all.

    Just sayin....

    Have you considered relocating to a country more suitable to your liking?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    So we were supposed to hold a positive view of Muslim extremism?
    We're not supposed to judge the many based on the actions of a few.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    2. Leadership requires more than merely catering to public sentiment.
    Yes.

    Leadership requires that the leader say what he means the first time he says it, and then stick with it.

    Saying what he meant the first time he said it, then playing "take it back" the next day, means the Messiah is NOT a leader, and it means he expects us to be stupid enough to not know truth is spoken first.

    3. IMO, if it comes down to a choice between current public sentiment, where emotions may well be running high, and bedrock principles on which the U.S. was established e.g., religious tolerance, I believe leaders should embrace those bedrock principles.
    No one is saying the terrorists can't build a temple.

    Everyone who's not a politician is saying they shouldn't be building their monument to the 9-11 terrorists THERE.

    No fundamental principles are being violated. Zoning law has been a fundamental principle of all cities since Hamurabi.

    Now, when we take into account that the terrorists seeking to build this monument originally planned to call the thing "Cordoba House", in commemoration of the successful muslim invasion of Spain in the `0th Century. That name was too blatantly agressive for the marketing campaign to get their new temple to terrorism built, and it was changed to some eponymous code to appease certain politicians.


    There is no credible evidence today that religious tolerance is a flawed principle
    It's not.

    So the terrorists should be required to show tolerance to the sensitivities of the people they're trying to insult with their Temple to Terrorism.

    They can build their temple elsewhere, there's nothing significant to Islam at that site that requires that specific place to be used.

    Except 3000 dead Americans killed in the name of Allah.

    4. Although those whose families suffered harm/losses during 9/11 might be reluctant to see a Mosque constructed near Ground Zero, the precedent of treating all Muslims as collectively responsible for that terrorist attack by denying Muslims a chance to build a Mosque is a worrying one.
    Actually, we're talking about terrorists promoting this temple who are unable to describe Hamas as the terrorists organization it is, and who attribute some portion of the blame for the atrocities on 9-11 on the victims.

    Should a half-way house for convicted rapists getting parole be sited across the street from a rape crisis center?

    Should child molesters be housed across the street from a school?

    Almost all cities, New York included, have laws limiting the placement of "adult" entertainment shops, porno theaters, and strip clubs. Why? Out of respect for public sensitivity to the proximity of contradictory issues.

    No constitutional right would be violated if the zoning board said "no" to a Temple to Terrorism at the site of a building damaged by the jet engine from one of the weapons stolen by Islamic terrorists to murder 3000 Americans. I'm sure there's a former landfill down wind of a sewage treatment plant just begging for a mosque somewhere.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Just doing the math, it seems to me, that one who hates the majority of Americans, (which happened to vote for Obama) such as you do, or for whatever reason, is actually the American hater. I mean, just doing the math and all.

    Just sayin....

    Have you considered relocating to a country more suitable to your liking?
    Nope, don't hate stupid people. Not enough time in the world to be bothered hating them. Just recognizing their stupidity is sufficient.

    Have you considered relocating to a country that allows the unconstitutional nonsense your Messiah and the Democrats have been pulling these last seven decades?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    We're not supposed to judge the many based on the actions of a few.
    Makes sense.

    Damn few muslims vocalize their opposition to islamic terrorism, therefore we should just Islam by actions of the majority.

    16,000 muslim-based terrorist attacks since 9-11.

    We should just Islam by that, and say "no" to terrorist monuments at the site of their most successful single act of mass murder.

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