- It's America's policy on legalized guns that inadvertantly cause thousands of murders in this country
- It's America's policy on "freedom of religion" that caused thousands of young boys and girls to be molested in Catholic Churches over decades.
- It's Amerca's policy on banning trade and contact with Cuba, that has caused that country's economy to suffer and many of their people to live in poverty.
Using your view of things, everything can be blamed on everything - therefore, no group or individual is ever at fault or responsible and everyone can play "victim".
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
***CORRECTION to my post #399***
Discovered my error after re-reading it moments ago. I don't want anyone to mischaracterize what I meant.I've always been a firm believer that in order to discern what the truth really is, one must seek knowledge for himself. With so much information being thrown at us each and every day from so many sources, the only way to filter out the political "white-noise", IMO, is to take a step back and collect information from as many non-partician sources as possible and apply that knowledge based within its historical content.
U.S. support of Israel is responsible for 9-11? So I take it U.S. support for Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia would be casus belli for a Jewish terrorist attack on the U.S.?It goes back to our nation's foreign policy where the U.S. supported fostering Arab/Isreal relations
So we were supposed to hold a positive view of Muslim extremism?but held a very negative/narrow view of Muslim extremism.
Which Muslim nations exactly? Which Muslim nations has the U.S. barred from world political affairs? Last time I checked even Iran has a seat at the UN.I'm sure history will show that we had reason to be so suspecious, but by being the leading in fostering an attitute that over time has left Muslims nations out of world political affairs,
You mean the mainstream Islam wherein the only accepted view is that the penalities for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and/or premarital sex is corporal and/or capital punishment, that honorable Islam?we've inadvertantly created this world view that Muslim ideology is evil when in reality only those nations that take an extreme, radical view of Islam have proven themselves to be wrong.
Fought back against what exactly?Radical Islam fought back, i.e., 9/11,
You mean the mainstream Islam wherein the only accepted view is that the penalities for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and/or premarital sex is corporal and/or capital punishment, that honorable Islam?but honorable Islam even here in our country condemned their actions.
Again, filter out the white-noise and review the historical content then reach your own conclusion on the matter.
Please read my post again only this time don't try so hard to disect it because in this case you come away with the wrong conclusion and espouse the wrong view.
Of course America didn't invent Islam. Don't be absord! It is a religon that's been around for thousands of years. You're being very ridiculous here.
I didn't say that our support of Arab/Isreal in and of itslef led to 9/11. I said maybe...maybe some of our foreign policies that led the way for exclusion of Muslim nations from the world stage but fostered inclusion of Arab/Isreal may have led to Muslim extremism that eventually led to 9/11. I also said that history may prove our position to have been correct.
Let me ask you these questions:
When exactly did Iran become a member of the U.N.?
How many other Muslim nations are also part of this world organization?
Why are they excluded?
What nation primarily has led the way for their exclusion?
Why are they set apart from participating in shaping world policies?
Again, I'm not saying that their exclusion was not justified. I am saying, however, that doing so may have led to the growth of Muslim extremism over the years and how radical Muslim extremist saw fit to project their anger at the U.S. on that faithful day.
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The question of whether it's smart or sensitive to build there is an entirely different one, one which doesn't involve American values and one which wasn't addressed by Obama.
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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
B) Who gives a **** if the Muslim world is watching as if they have a single thing to say in regards to defending religious tolerance. Should we be dictating domestic policy in regards to what the Muslim world thinks?
"Symbolism" works a lot of different ways. There is no one-way street.
2001-2008: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
2009-2016: Dissent is the highest form of racism.
2017-? (Probably): Dissent is the highest form of misogyny.