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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You totally missed that one...
    No, I didn't. I got that he was busy being an ass. I just chose to respond as though he were not.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

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    President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosqueLet's get back to the scintillating topic of a proposed building that would be located two blocks away from ground zero.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    For me, what I "see" from the current Administration based on President Obama's agenda is a President who is brave enough and bold enough to tackle many of the issues that have been so widely ignored by prior Administrations that affect so many of us.
    i appreciate your thoughtfulness and maturity

    but, with all due respect, you really need to be talking to 50% of ny dems, not me

    after all, they're the ones who matter, since, y'know, the entire stated purpose of this project is to improve relations with em

    and they see the president's position on this very differently

    bottom line: this attempt to improve relations on the part of mr rauf and president putz is BACKFIRING

    it's not SUCCEEDING

    SUCCESS is a very important ingredient in the makeup of effective leadership, you see

    obama's obtuse

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really quickly, since this is way off topic, but the Baptist church threw my mother out, publicly, and referenced doing so, and her being damned to hell, in front of my sister and I(aged 7 and 5). I have personal reasons for disliking the baptist church, and freely admit it is not an entirely rational emotion. This is also off the point I was trying to make.
    Could you answer the question about the points you tried to equate between Islam and Christianity? This is the third time I've asked you to explain yourself. I fail to see the connection between your claim concerning Islam, the mosque and Christianity.
    Last edited by texmaster; 08-15-10 at 03:03 PM.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Could you answer the question about the points you tried to equate between Islam and Christianity? This is the third time I've asked you to explain yourself.
    Oh hey, let me help. See, when people ignore your question over and over? They have no intention of answering it. You asking a question does not perforce entitle you to an answer. HTH.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Oh hey, let me help. See, when people ignore your question over and over? They have no intention of answering it. You asking a question does not perforce entitle you to an answer. HTH.
    Since you don't speak for Redress your response only reflects your own intentions.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Since you don't speak for Redress your response only reflects your own intentions.
    Some things are just common knowledge. Which apparently you lack? Sorry.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    I get that Obama is backing away from a perceived notion that he's weighing in on a local matter which is, to say the least, inflammatory and will do him or Democrats zero good politically. That he feels the compunction to say anything is... ill advised and naive. He should avoid this subject like the black plague. What the hell is he thinking - he needs to shut his pie hole and continue blaming Bush for something.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No ****, you can still defend the Constitutions while condemning the actions being taken which are protected by the Constitution. For example I don't have to support the Nazi Party to support their right to public protest. You can actively condemn the Nazi party while still supporting the Constitution, the two things are not mutually exclusive.

    That's ****ing bull****, that mother ****ing POS islamist wants a sharia compliant U.S., said that the U.S. was partially responsible for 9-11, said that OBL was made in the USA, and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.
    I'm going to take a risk and make a statement I know is going to paint me in a bad light, but...

    In a way, American policy may have led to 9/11. It goes back to our nation's foreign policy where the U.S. supported fostering Arab/Isreal relations but held a very negative/narrow view of Muslim extremism. I'm sure history will show that we had reason to be so suspecious, but by being the leading in fostering an attitute that over time has left Muslims nations out of world political affairs, we've inadvertantly created this world view that Muslim ideology is evil when in reality only those nations that take an extreme, radical view of Islam have proven themselves to be wrong. Radical Islam fought back, i.e., 9/11, but honorable Islam even here in our country condemned their actions.

    Again, filter out the white-noise and review the historical content then reach your own conclusion on the matter.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Explain yourself Redress.

    the very high percentage of muslims who accept and extol terrorism and violence as a means to accomplish political goals

    Where is the evidence that supports this is true with a high percentage of Christians?
    IRA, Abortion clinic bombers, Hutaree.

    the very high percentage of Christians who seek to subjugate the world under Christianity

    Again, your evidence please.
    Remember the crusades?

    the unwillingness of Christians to separate the religious elements of it from the practice of the political

    Evidence please
    The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'

    the unwillingness of Christians to modernize or reform islam so as to suppress the violent components of their texts from being applied in modern times

    Evidence please
    Replace Islam with Catholic, and violent with child molesting.

    the consistent intolerance and oppression of non-Christian minorities inside Christian -majority nations, while demanding their "rights" while living in non-Christian majority nations

    Again, evidence please.
    This story kinda shows that.


    You cannot simply substitute Christianity for Islam and pretend you don't have to explain why. Please do so.
    I figured it was pretty obvious.
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