Both mainstream Islam and Islamism are oppressive and violent, it's a difference of degree not of kind.
So would this quote from Anne Coulter extolling violence mean she is a member of a cult?We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
1-it must offer a peaceful method of interaction with both its adherents and non-belivers (islam fails this)
2-it must offer the ability to be flexible and morph over time to remain relevant in modern context (islam fails this)
3-it must not seek to brainwash adherents, that only its way is the Right One (both islam and christianity fail this, but islam's merger of both the spiritual and political lead to a greater failure)
4-it must not accept the use of violence to expand its reach (islam badly fails this)
These are but a few that come to mind, but you get the point.
That cannot be claimed of the thousands or millions of imams, clerics and learned muslims who declare a desire to conduct violent jihad and subjugation of the west. Whose state-owned newspapers do the same or worse, who operate fund-raising charities with which to conduct terrorism operations like the holy land foundation.
Last edited by joergan; 08-15-10 at 09:35 AM.
Let me put it to you this way...
Had the President stood up and said it was wrong for this Mosque to be built, I believe the message Muslims around the world would have taken from this is "Americans ARE hypocrits! They truly don't believe in freedom of religion or democracy as they claim they do." And in taking such a stance, the President would have been sending a message to Muslim extremist that they were fully justified in attacking us not only on 9/11 but anywhere around the world. You have to remember, the guiding reason behind their hatred of America and Americans is U.S. Foreign Policy. Part of what guides said policy is how we abide by or subvert the very document that guides our fundamental priciples - the U.S. Constitution. Is this the message you want to send to the world? That America, for all of our talk on fairness and religious freedom is a smoke screen? That's it's just BS?
THINK IT THROUGH, PEOPLE!!!! There's so much more to this issue than your own emotional or political point of view.
Last edited by Objective Voice; 08-15-10 at 10:10 AM.
you mean, like martin frost, mike mcmahon, tim bishop, jeff greene, kendrick meek, and a half dozen unnamed dem aides and advisers in new york (see politico link, above)
why have pelosi and reid no comment on this idiotic thrust of the president into this thorniest of downtown dilemnas?
why won't schumer and cuomo come out, they were courageous enough to go to rangel's birthday party (unlike half the empire state's blues)?
i wonder what they'll say...
anyway, it is plainly apparent why barack hussein obama is riding against a current of almost consensus american conclusion on this most dangerous of downtown dilemnas (cnn registers opposition to this project at 59%, support at 32, a plurality of TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT)
it's because hussein obama and his supporters see people like MARTIN FROST as far righties!
maybe obama's base really is in need of drug testing