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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    rauf has every right to build his mosque, and if he really wants to he should do it

    but not if he's sincere about trying to improve community feelings

    obama, either way, is a fool

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    oh, no, it's not working, manifestly, measurably

    CNN Poll: 68% of American Voters Oppose Ground Zero Mosque | The Weekly Standard

    Fox News Poll: 64 Percent Think It's Wrong to Build Mosque Near Ground Zero - Politics

    i appreciate that you some of you may find political polling irrelevant (LOL!), but it's really the only empirics we have, y'know, until AFTER an election

    very good
    Further evidence you are in fact arguing that Obama should base policy on popularity polls despite your claims to the contrary.

    It doesn't MATTER if 99% of the population is against it. It is their legal and religion right as enshrined in the COTUS to allow it. While it is becoming increasingly clear you don't give a **** about the highest law of the land much less America's history, nothing you can say proves that what Obama said or what the builders want is illegal or wrong.

    rauf has every right to build his mosque, and if he really wants to he should do it

    but not if he's sincere about trying to improve community feelings

    obama, either way, is a fool
    Wow. That took a large number of posts to get you to admit that.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    A Burlington Coat Factory or a Mosque?

    The history associated with the building, a former Burlington Coat Factory store that closed after being damaged on 9/11, was a reason to pick it for the project, she said.

    "We want to create a platform by which the voices of the mainstream and silent majority of Muslims will be amplified. A center of this scale and magnitude will do that," Khan said. "We feel it's an obligation as Muslims and Americans to be part of the rebuilding of downtown Manhattan."

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Don't lie. This wouldn't have appease you.
    I really don't care about Obama's opinion on the matter, but if he had to chime in this is what I would have liked to hear.

    You hate everything Obama stands for.
    Pretty much ya.

    If you lived in the 1850s you'd be one of those people's trying to preserve slavery in the name of "states rights"
    Yep ya caught me but not because of state's rights but only because I hate stove pipe hats.

    and if this was the 1950s you'd be protesting civil rights.
    If this was the 1950's I'd probably be wearing a black beret and writing bad poetry.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post

    If this was the 1950's I'd probably be wearing a black beret and writing bad poetry.
    Again, when you confront the conservative on the destructive history of their beliefs their arguments fall flat and are reduced to bad attempts at humor.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    He's right but I would have liked him to say that it is completely insensitive and if they cared about bettering relations between Muslims and non-Muslims that this is the wrong way to do it which by now is plainly obvious.
    1) Sensitivity to whatever has nothing to do whatsoever with this issue. It's about the Constitution, and upholding it. Kind of funny how some people talk about how having activist judges is a bad thing, then when something happens that is within the Constitution, and that they don't like, they start looking for an activist judge who will listen to them.

    2) Here is what the spokesman for the mosque said:

    "We want to create a platform by which the voices of the mainstream and silent majority of Muslims will be amplified. A center of this scale and magnitude will do that. We feel it's an obligation as Muslims and Americans to be part of the rebuilding of downtown Manhattan."

    So if you love America, you will want to be part of the rebuilding of Manhattan, except if you are Muslim, then any display of patriotism on your part doesn't matter? You are still a filthy terrorist? Is that it?
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to quote me on any of that?

    I'm betting, uh, nooooo!

    But, hey, go for it...I double dog dare ya.
    Hell, I quoted you in a side-by-side and you ignored it so why should anybody bother?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Again, when you confront the conservative on the destructive history of their beliefs their arguments fall flat and are reduced to bad attempts at humor.
    What history have you confronted? WTF are you talking about? You busted out a crystal ball which sees into the past and doubles as a "what if machine" to make the determination that I would support slavery and be opposed to the civil rights movement.

    I can do that too, if this was the 1770's you'd be one of those people opposed to the American revolution, if this was the 1920's you'd be one of those people supporting Stalin, if this was the 1970's you'd be one of those people supporting Pol Pot.


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) Sensitivity to whatever has nothing to do whatsoever with this issue. It's about the Constitution, and upholding it. Kind of funny how some people talk about how having activist judges is a bad thing, then when something happens that is within the Constitution, and that they don't like, they start looking for an activist judge who will listen to them.
    No ****, you can still defend the Constitutions while condemning the actions being taken which are protected by the Constitution. For example I don't have to support the Nazi Party to support their right to public protest. You can actively condemn the Nazi party while still supporting the Constitution, the two things are not mutually exclusive.

    2) Here is what the spokesman for the mosque said:

    "We want to create a platform by which the voices of the mainstream and silent majority of Muslims will be amplified. A center of this scale and magnitude will do that. We feel it's an obligation as Muslims and Americans to be part of the rebuilding of downtown Manhattan."

    So if you love America, you will want to be part of the rebuilding of Manhattan, except if you are Muslim, then any display of patriotism on your part doesn't matter? You are still a filthy terrorist? Is that it?
    That's ****ing bull****, that mother ****ing POS islamist wants a sharia compliant U.S., said that the U.S. was partially responsible for 9-11, said that OBL was made in the USA, and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    What history have you confronted? WTF are you talking about? You busted out a crystal ball which sees into the past and doubles as a "what if machine" to make the determination that I would support slavery and be opposed to the civil rights movement.

    I can do that too, if this was the 1770's you'd be one of those people opposed to the American revolution, if this was the 1920's you'd be one of those people supporting Stalin, if this was the 1970's you'd be one of those people supporting Pol Pot.

    There you go! That's better than telling bad jokes while trying to dodge being confronted with your own bigotry.

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