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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Thank you Laila. Perfect example. I rest my case.
    I'd like to pretend to care .... but I can't work up that energy.


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i don't know about it's "role," but the church (which aint never gonna be built) certainly has a cause
    What church?


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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We consider silence to be silently accepting/agreeing.
    That might be true but it is still idiotic. One wonders what it would take to convince you that most Muslims aren't extremists and don't tacitly support extremism. I don't see Christians coming out in droves to condemn the people who bomb abortion clinics, I guess that means all Christians support terrorist, too, huh?

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    C'mon Dan. You can do better than that.
    I don't have to. By your standard, any bad thing that happens that we don't denounce is something we implicitly approve of.

    You're convicting peaceful, law-abiding Muslims of being collaborators / supporters / fans of militants without any proof whatsoever.

    By that same standard, you carry a torch for murderers.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    What a bunch of bull****. You don't improve relations by doing whatever it takes to make someone else happy, you do it through interaction, putting your case out there and giving people a chance to respond to it.
    the way mr rauf and mr obama "do it" is by openly provoking and pissing off their peers

    in the case of the latter, he then asks you to pee in a cup

    that's what diplomacy is all about
    good, but it's not working

    diplomacy with iran isn't either

    the prez stinks at improving relations

    ask the show me's, as characteristic a cross section as any in the country

    their expression is unambiguous, unmistakable, 3 to 1

    Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    despite the largeness of those lobes our leader plainly lacks the ability to listen

    but, then, as always, he knows best
    Last edited by The Prof; 08-14-10 at 02:24 PM.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the way mr rauf and mr obama "do it" is by openly provoking and pissing off their neighbors
    You're holding Rauf responsible for the fact that his neighbors are ignoramuses. That's not his problem.

    If he keeps putting himself out there and being reasonable and creating environments and opportunities for interaction with the public, then he's doing what he should be doing.

    As for the President, I don't give a damn about him.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That might be true but it is still idiotic. One wonders what it would take to convince you that most Muslims aren't extremists and don't tacitly support extremism. I don't see Christians coming out in droves to condemn the people who bomb abortion clinics, I guess that means all Christians support terrorist, too, huh?
    No, see you're WRONG many do, and we do so by supporting laws to stop such, by publicly condemning such actions.

    It may not be fair, and I was merely remarking on cultural differences? Yes, not making a statement that all Muslims that don't get out in the streets supports terrorism.

    BTW It wouldn't take much, I figure most Muslims that live in the West and have been exposed to Personal Liberty move beyond such notions. But what will it take for you to acknowledge that many DO support Terrorist.

    Last week, Ford Motor Company finally won a suit by a former employee, Arab Muslim Saleem Shariff, who cheered the 9/11 attacks and high-fived fellow Arab Muslim employees on the day of the attacks. Three others–Khalid Ali Alward, Abdul Mohamed, and Saleh Mohamed Omar–also Arab Muslims, participated and did the same thing: they cheered and high-fived the 9/11 attacks. And they all sued when they were not hired for permanent employment, but only Shariff appealed after losing at the trial court level. The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an unpublished decision (which I obtained and you can read here), decided in Ford’s favor.
    Ford Motor Company Kept Workers Who Praised 9/11 Employed for 3 Years | Debbie Schlussel

    September 13, 2001 by Lee Green

    CAMERA ALERT: PA Blocks Coverage of Palestinians Cheering 9/11 Attacks

    According to the AP, Israel Radio and the Jerusalem Post, the Palestinians threatened news organizations and their workers in an effort to stop the broadcast of video, and the publishing of photographs, showing large crowds of Palestinians in Nablus and Ramallah joyfully celebrating the deadly 9/11 terrorist attacks against Americans. Presumably they understood that such video and photos would be repugnant to Americans — and millions of others around the world — and might damage their image.

    Photographers and stringers (mostly Palestinians themselves) were forced by Palestinian gunmen to stop filming the celebrations (see Agence France Press report), and they were threatened with death if their video was broadcast. The news organizations they work for were told that everyone from their news organization would lose their access to PA officials and be unable to cover events in PA territory if they broadcast any video or photos of the large celebrations.

    An AP photographer was specifically threatened with death if his photos were published. AP has published a report about the threat, but has caved in to the PA's request not to publish these photos.

    Thus far, only videos and photos of small crowds celebrating in eastern Jerusalem and Lebanon have been broadcast/published. It appears the Palestinian intimidation tactics are working to keep the most damning scenes from Ramallah and Nablus off American (and worldwide) television screens and out of the newspapers.
    CAMERA: CAMERA ALERT: PA Blocks Coverage of Palestinians Cheering 9/11 Attacks

    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Thank you Laila. Perfect example. I rest my case.
    I'll give you more examples:

    I don't expect Catholics to feel shame when a priest rapes a child.

    I don't expect you to feel shame when another man rapes a woman.

    I don't expect Germans to feel shame for what happened in WWII.

    I don't expect Irish Catholics to feel guilty about the actions of the IRA.

    I don't expect Italians to feel guilty for the actions of the Red Brigades or the Mafia.

    I don't expect all Basques to feel guilty for the actions of ETA.

    And I certainly don't expect Muslims to feel either guilt or shame for 9/11 or ANY other Islamic terrorist attack.

    Why in the bloody hell would you expect innocent people to mentally associate themselves with criminals in this manner? Are you a sadist of some sort??
    Last edited by Arcana XV; 08-14-10 at 02:19 PM.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    You are aware, are you not, that the property was purchased and the project was being planned long before 9/11/2001. They could not possibly know that several blocks away that a future tragedy would happen.
    Please elaborate. The information I have is that it was owned by Con-Ed a utility co. and sold to a Sharif El-Gamal in 2006 long after the attack on 9/11

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I believe what he's doing is this:

    Coming out in support of the 1st Amendment.

    If you have a problem with it. Change it. But he's kinda upholding the constitution in this case...

    You know that thing you accuse him of destroying...

    Those who brought down the twin towers had also disgraced Islam, Obama said, reminding Americans "to always remember who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for. Our enemies respect no freedom of religion" that the Founding Fathers enshrined.

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