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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    We are a nation of people who understand the sensitivity of others, even when others want to stomp on our own sensitivities.

    Basically, we are pushovers when it comes to "sensitive groups".
    Objective voice: this is exactly what I am talking about. We have demonstrated that the 9/11 attacks weren't sponsored, supported or carried out by any major Islamic sect and were actually condemned by most of them and yet people still think our sensitivities are being "stomped on" because so many Americans are too stupid to differentiate between Islam and radical Islamic terrorist. I guess building a church in downtown Atlanta would be "insensitive" because some wacko right-wing Christian bombed the olympics there years back. Because after all, an attack from a wacko right-wing extremist Christian is an attack by ALL Christians.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Objective voice: this is exactly what I am talking about. We have demonstrated that the 9/11 attacks weren't sponsored, supported or carried out by any major Islamic sect and were actually condemned by most of them and yet people still think our sensitivities are being "stomped on" because so many Americans are too stupid to differentiate between Islam and radical Islamic terrorist. I guess building a church in downtown Atlanta would be "insensitive" because some wacko right-wing Christian bombed the olympics there years back. Because after all, an attack from a wacko right-wing extremist Christian is an attack by ALL Christians.
    Well then, I don't see any slave holders yet people are still sensitive about slavery..... explain that one then bub.

    I don't see anyone who was involved in the forced removal of native americans from the original 13 colonies, yet people are sensitive about that.

    The list goes on.

    Basically what you are trying to say is that nobody has a right to be sensitive to anything unless THAT SPECIFIC GROUP is the one harming those sensitivities.

    Thanks.
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well then, I don't see any slave holders yet people are still sensitive about slavery..... explain that one then bub.

    I don't see anyone who was involved in the forced removal of native americans from the original 13 colonies, yet people are sensitive about that.

    The list goes on.

    Basically what you are trying to say is that nobody has a right to be sensitive to anything unless THAT SPECIFIC GROUP is the one harming those sensitivities.

    Thanks.
    Your examples prove my point even further "bub". You just don't get it. Slavery WAS STATE BACKED, by the United States of America and for the United States of America. So were the Indian Removal Acts. This is why Native Americans and African-Americans are still sensitive and feel they are owed something. How many times do I have to say it! 9/11 wasn't backed by any major Islamic sects! Again, if you protest this building you would have to protest a church being built in downtown Atlanta, or else you're simply a hypocrit.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, you misread. Like a Christian who thinks we should follow the word of God in making our decisisons, he feels the same about his religion.
    He said that he wants a Sharia compliant U.S. he supports Sharia law in the U.S., or in his words he does not want our secular laws to conflict with the Koran and the Hadiths. His only complaint is the penal code not Sharia law itself.

    But his point was that doing so is not radical any more than when a Christian feels that way. You completely misunderstand his conversation, playing the nonthinking radical misrepresenting role of a Beck.
    Wanting secular laws not to conflict with the bible is the very definition of a radical Christian. This man is a theocrat not a liberal, he wants Sharia which means he wants to outlaw homosexuality, he wants to outlaw apostasy, he wants premarital sex outlawed, he wants adultery outlawed, he wants discriminatory inheritance laws regarding women, and he wants everything else that Sharia law would entail. His problem with Sharia is not the law but the penal code.

    And Becks comments are exactly the same, with exactly the same meaning.
    No they are not you are lying, Glenn Beck never said that the U.S. was an accessory to 9-11, Glenn Beck never called for Sharia, Glenn Beck didn't say that OBL was made in the USA,

    Again, it takes a certain willingness to misrepresent to read it otherwise.
    I'm not misrepresenting a ****ing thing, he said and refused to say everything that I have claimed to the letter.

    I repeat, you simply have it completely wrong.
    I'm not misrepresenting anything, he has blamed the U.S. for 9-11, said that OBL was made in the USA, both within less than 3 weeks of the attacks, has refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, and wants a Sharia compliant U.S., I have provided his direct quotes to attest to these facts, any assertion to the contrary is a proven lie.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Objective voice: this is exactly what I am talking about. We have demonstrated that the 9/11 attacks weren't sponsored, supported or carried out by any major Islamic sect and were actually condemned by most of them and yet people still think our sensitivities are being "stomped on" because so many Americans are too stupid to differentiate between Islam and radical Islamic terrorist. I guess building a church in downtown Atlanta would be "insensitive" because some wacko right-wing Christian bombed the olympics there years back. Because after all, an attack from a wacko right-wing extremist Christian is an attack by ALL Christians.
    Care to show us where most Muslims condemned the 9/11 murders? Betcha can't do it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's been explained already. Try to keep up.

    But it has no bearing on this community centre with a mosque inside it. The two are seperate issues.
    It's not a ****ing community center it's a Mosque, if it's a community center then when will they be holding prayer services for non-Muslim members of the community?
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 08-17-10 at 11:50 PM.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to show us where most Muslims condemned the 9/11 murders? Betcha can't do it.
    Pensito Review Poll: 93% of Muslims Worldwide Condemn 9/11 Attacks – 0% Approve of Attacks on Religious Grounds

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to show us where most Muslims condemned the 9/11 murders? Betcha can't do it.
    Can you show us where most Muslims have supported the 9/11 murders? Betcha can't do it.

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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Your examples prove my point even further "bub". You just don't get it. Slavery WAS STATE BACKED, by the United States of America and for the United States of America. So were the Indian Removal Acts. This is why Native Americans and African-Americans are still sensitive and feel they are owed something. How many times do I have to say it! 9/11 wasn't backed by any major Islamic sects! Again, if you protest this building you would have to protest a church being built in downtown Atlanta, or else you're simply a hypocrit.
    Well, Im not protesting anything.

    Its insensitive, yes. But sure let them build a mosque. I don't have to deal with it because I don't and never will live in (*pinching nose*) "New York City".
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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    Re: President Obama comes out in support of Ground Zero mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It starts with the premise. Why is the article written? Who has suggested anywhere that anyone take up these laws that are mentioned. Have you looked at laws under old Christian law? Like the letter on Christianity, many have over the years written and misunderstood Christian positions and used Christina writings to justify all manner of evil. Same with Islam.

    "Applying the Old Testament Law Today" by J. Daniel Hays

    Many of these laws don't really apply today ad are largely ignored. But we've seen in this country Christians abusing their wives, using the bible to justify slavery and segregation and other abuses. The probem is more how some third world countries misinterpret the word (remember muslims are believers in the book and broters and sisters to both Christans and jews). This si the problem, and the American (non)Thinker does little more than play to the prejudices of it's readers, who seldom if ever question the opening premise.

    Agian, there is no spreading of sharia law. The vast majority ofmuslims live leife little differently than Christians do. For them is is more about jsutice and fairness than it is these silly misrepresentations.

    This is it? This is your big misrepresentation, your chance to once and for all put Am Thinker in its place? The best you can come up with is to bash Christianity and call the premise wrong, and never truly address how?


    FAIL!


    Don't ever again come to me with how the AT is so wrong that you won't even address it, you have shown you have nothing here other than an ideological bent that won't allow you to debate honestly.


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