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    US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11 - Yahoo! News

    NEW YORK The lunar calendar that Muslims follow for religious holidays is creating a potential for misunderstandings or worse in a year when American Muslims are already confronting a spike in assaults on their faith and protests against new mosques.

    Eid al-Fitr, a joyous holiday marking the end of the holy month of Ramadan, this year falls around Sept. 11. Muslim leaders fear that their gatherings for prayer and festivities could be misinterpreted by those unfamiliar with Islam as a celebration of the 2001 terrorist strikes.

    The Muslim Public Affairs Council, an advocacy group based in Los Angeles, is contacting law enforcement and the Justice Department civil rights division to alert them to the overlap.

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    However, he and other American Muslim leaders don't want to make so many changes that they appear to be giving in to those who reject any Muslim observance in the United States. Some critics have said Muslims should move the date of the eid.

    "It's like being offended that 9/11 and Christmas fall on the same day," said Safaa Zarzour, secretary general of the Islamic Society of North America, an Indiana-based communal group with tens of thousands of members. "There is something unsettling about that."

    Yvonne Maffei, 35, of Des Plaines, Ill., a Chicago suburb, said she and her husband plan to stick with their usual Eid al-Fitr plan. They will attend morning prayers at their local mosque, go out for brunch then visit friends during the day.
    The hits just keep on coming. This seems like much ado about nothing to be honest. It's widely known that Muslims don't use the same calendar as Christians or Jews. However I do wish they made the same effort in condemning Muslim terrorist attacks as they do in condemning potential threats to their holidays.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

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    The hits just keep on coming. This seems like much ado about nothing to be honest. It's widely known that Muslims don't use the same calendar as Christians or Jews. However I do wish they made the same effort in condemning Muslim terrorist attacks as they do in condemning potential threats to their holidays.
    It's more that "seems like much ado about nothing", it is much ado about nothing. Their holiday happened to fall on September 11th. That's it. What they are doing here is just preemptive public control. Letting people know that it's just how the calendar worked out, and nothing more. Sadly, such a move is probably necessary right now.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Sadly, such a move is probably necessary right now.
    That's the worst part. Eid has been celebrated in the fall for a thousand years.

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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    I agree with Hautey's thoughts on this. At the same time I wonder how much its the fault of Muslims and how much its the fault of the Media. There's actually seemingly a number of muslim moderates that have spoken out against the Mosque at Ground Zero, spoken out strongely against terrorists, spoken out against the treatment of women, etc....however, those never are the focus or the front story. Why that might be I'm sure will create differing opinions on differing sides as to the cause...

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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    My wedding anniversary is September 4th. Our honeymoon ended on 9/11 of that year.

    I guess we were celebrating the attacks too, right?
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My wedding anniversary is September 4th. Our honeymoon ended on 9/11 of that year.

    I guess we were celebrating the attacks too, right?
    Well that's slightly dishonest. You're not a Muslim and you already stated you were on your honey moon. This however is a situation where a major holiday for them is situated ON a day that most Americans won't easily forget. My issue is how weeks before their holiday is to take place many prominent centrist groups are out doing damage control for all the wrong reasons. Instead of advocating that they should use their holiday to condemn Islamic terrorism, they are out in full force saying that they're not celebrating 9/11. It's all in the actions.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well that's slightly dishonest. You're not a Muslim and you already stated you were on your honey moon. This however is a situation where a major holiday for them is situated ON a day that most Americans won't easily forget. My issue is how weeks before their holiday is to take place many prominent centrist groups are out doing damage control for all the wrong reasons. Instead of advocating that they should use their holiday to condemn Islamic terrorism, they are out in full force saying that they're not celebrating 9/11. It's all in the actions.
    Sorry, I should've been clearer. I wasn't responding to you so much as the idiots who will take this as a celebration of 9/11 -- because some will.

    Anyway, it seems to me that they're trying to contradict the sound bites you could expect to hear on all the usual suspect pundit shows, rather than doing what they should be doing. That's today's media environment for you.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well that's slightly dishonest. You're not a Muslim and you already stated you were on your honey moon. This however is a situation where a major holiday for them is situated ON a day that most Americans won't easily forget. My issue is how weeks before their holiday is to take place many prominent centrist groups are out doing damage control for all the wrong reasons. Instead of advocating that they should use their holiday to condemn Islamic terrorism, they are out in full force saying that they're not celebrating 9/11. It's all in the actions.
    I completely agree with this. It's not Islam's fault that 9/11 happens to be the day Eid falls on, but I can't think of a better time for them to distance themselves from terrorism and condemn the attacks on 9/11. I find it very rude and inconsiderate for them to play the martyr with fears that they will be persecuted on 9/11 because they are celebrating an Islamic holiday. This would be the perfect time for the Islamic community to condemn terrorism. They can celebrate their holiday, but they can also mourn with the rest of the nation for the events that took place on that day.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They can celebrate their holiday, but they can also mourn with the rest of the nation for the events that took place on that day.
    What I don't understand is why Muslims need to constantly condemn to make others feel like we do not support it. We have condemned before, American Muslims especially. It should be common sense by now all Muslims do not support extremists.

    And in that link:
    Moghul said most New York Muslims likely won't celebrate the way they normally do, and noted that a significant number lost relatives when the World Trade Center was destroyed. Many imams in the city plan sermons on dealing with loss and grief.

    "It's a very painful day for everyone," Moghul said.


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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I agree with Hautey's thoughts on this. At the same time I wonder how much its the fault of Muslims and how much its the fault of the Media. There's actually seemingly a number of muslim moderates that have spoken out against the Mosque at Ground Zero, spoken out strongely against terrorists, spoken out against the treatment of women, etc....however, those never are the focus or the front story. Why that might be I'm sure will create differing opinions on differing sides as to the cause...
    Doesn't make good news when moderates disagree. It seems most news reported nowadays is used to piss people off about something.

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