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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What I don't understand is why Muslims need to constantly condemn to make others feel like we do not support it. We have condemned before, American Muslims especially. It should be common sense by now all Muslims do not support extremists.

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    If an American terrorist put a bomb in Mecca and killed thousands of people, the only people to condemn them on a constant basis would be Americans. We, as a people, wouldn't have celebrations on that day. We, as a people, wouldn't for the most part sit quietly while the radical pastor du jour was on TV telling us that we should attack Muslims. We would make sure that everyone is constantly reminded that we have distanced ourselves from such radicalism.

    However, that's not what the Muslim community has done as a whole has it? While it's true that some groups have disassociated themselves from the acts of radicalism, the majority of moderate Muslims stayed quiet. That they were silenced by their local media networks or simply didn't care are possible reasons. Most people don't support terrorism and that's a given. However when the society, group or community as a whole is almost completely silent when it comes to condemning terrorism coming from their religion but gets on a bullhorn when there is a threat towards them then you can't help but see how hypocritical they are.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Because if an American terrorist put a bomb in Mecca and killed thousands of people, the only people to condemn them on a constant basis would be Americans.
    I doubt it would be the same.

    It is common sense that if all Muslims did support extremists. Then US's problems would be 1000x worse.


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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What I don't understand is why Muslims need to constantly condemn to make others feel like we do not support it. We have condemned before, American Muslims especially. It should be common sense by now all Muslims do not support extremists.
    There's a ****-ton of stuff that millions of American non-Muslims don't bother to condemn, simply because we take it for granted that no reasonable person would support it. Like the pre-meditated murder of a woman on the basis of some archaic concept of honor.

    The thing is, you and I both know there's a whole other set of rules for Muslims.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    "It's like being offended that 9/11 and Christmas fall on the same day," said Safaa Zarzour
    They do? ****, my calendar is ****ED UP.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    You need the new NASA calender, as documented on Sifl and Olly. Then you'll never be late again, just on-time in a way nobody else can understand.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    However, that's not what the Muslim community has done as a whole has it? While it's true that some groups have disassociated themselves from the acts of radicalism, the majority of moderate Muslims stayed quiet. That they were silenced by their local media networks or simply didn't care are possible reasons. Most people don't support terrorism and that's a given. However when the society, group or community as a whole is almost completely silent when it comes to condemning terrorism coming from their religion but gets on a bullhorn when there is a threat towards them then you can't help but see how hypocritical they are.
    Nothing can happen with Muslims as a "whole". We are more divided than ever. No way will you ever heard a "united" 1.2billion condemnation of terrorism. There is no hierarchy of authority.

    And Muslims have been condemning, the difference is very few hear it. I am not going to sit here and pretend I spend all day condemning what Muslims do abroad because frankly. It is not my fault what other people do and I and other Moderates are not responsible for it.

    What the Muslim community in US seem to be doing is just doing pre-empting those who will claim Muslims are celebrating 9/11 on Eid and trying to put out information. I don't blame them either.


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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nothing can happen with Muslims as a "whole". We are more divided than ever. No way will you ever heard a "united" 1.2billion condemnation of terrorism. There is no hierarchy of authority.

    And Muslims have been condemning, the difference is very few hear it. I am not going to sit here and pretend I spend all day condemning what Muslims do abroad because frankly. It is not my fault what other people do and I and other Moderates are not responsible for it.

    What the Muslim community in US seem to be doing is just doing pre-empting those who will claim Muslims are celebrating 9/11 on Eid and trying to put out information. I don't blame them either.
    You seem to be united on your holidays, prayer time, voicing any possible attacks against your religion. Just sayin'.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    NOOOOOOO THEY ARE PLANNING TO BOMB USSSSSS!!!! Everybody head for your shelters, basements, **** your gun with a bullet because you got to have balls when you need to pull it.
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    I do understand that many Muslims condemn terror attacks, and that it's foolish to say all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. I just believe it's a prime time to condemn the attacks and mourn with the rest of us who mourn for the losses on 9/11. Say a Christian nation existed and in the name of God bombed Mecca and killed thousands of people. Would it not be sensetive if a Christian holiday like Easter (that changes each year) fell on the anniversary of the attack?
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    Re: US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

    I am an American who says that do people have anything better to do than too than to bitch about this? I am just saying y'all are treating Muslims as a second class citizen which I find stupid.

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