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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

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    I completely approve of better patrols on our southwest border, but shouldn't we bring the troops home so we can pay for it?
    Not spending a trillion dollars on the porkulus package, nor 26 billion for a union bailout, would have been a better idea.
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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
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    I wonder where all the criticism was when GWBush did very little about illegal immigration when boarder security was of vital importance in a post-9/11 America?

    I wonder why there was little focus on protecting our southwester boarder when it's been very well known that Mexicans were entering this country illegally and you had reports that Al-Quaida operatives looking at coming into the U.S. via Mexico? Could it be that the only published reports to the public were of those operatives who tried to come through Canada instead that garnered the most media attention and we have stronger economic and national security ties with our northern neighbor than we do with our southern one?
    Perhaps you were smoking pot the whole time during Bush's presidency but Bush did receive criticism for doing very little to secure the border.Especially when the minutemen brought the issue to the light of day. He also got a lot of **** for trying grant amnesty to illegals.

    (Republicans) Make such a big stink about illegals gaining U.S. citizenship, i.e., the 14th Amendment argument, but are quick to condemn any effort to shore up boarder security by this President.
    Lets see why Obama is receiving criticisms and doubts.

    1. He had the AG sue Arizona for enforcing anti-illegal immigration laws that mirror federal law.

    2.Just like Bush he sent the national guard to the border with no authority to detain or arrest illegal crossers, nor did they have any authority to prevent illegal crossing.

    3.Just like Bush, McCain(McCain is facing reelection so he is pretending that he is not a pro-illegal) and the late Kennedy who tried to pass the last amnesty, Obama is a pro-illegal.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    The border has been utterly ignored since Reagan and his amnesty program when there were only 2 million illegals in the country. However, Regan's promise to secure the border was broken, and at the word "amnesty" the flood started and hasn't stopped yet. We've been told for the past 10 years that there were "12 million illegals" in the USA, and they come at between 1-2 million per year. That means that at a minimum we have 22 million illegals here now.

    George Bush Sr.'s administration did nothing of substance on border/immigration issues. Nor did Clinton's administration, or George W. Bush's administration. All of them wanted the hispanic vote more than they wanted secure borders. Well, now we're paying the price, billions upon billions in education, medical, welfare costs, lost taxes and lost jobs.

    Obama just got here. Fair enough, I didn't vote for the guy and I do not trust the gleam in his eye when he says "immigration reform", but it's ludicrous to lay this decades-old debacle at his feet.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    all the more reason NOT to sue arizona

    rather, he should be ASSISTING

    and, again, why doesn't doj go after SANCTUARY CITIES?

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    SANCTUARY CITIES?
    Tell me more.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Perhaps you were smoking pot the whole time during Bush's presidency but Bush did receive criticism for doing very little to secure the border.Especially when the minutemen brought the issue to the light of day. He also got a lot of **** for trying grant amnesty to illegals.



    Lets see why Obama is receiving criticisms and doubts.

    1. He had the AG sue Arizona for enforcing anti-illegal immigration laws that mirror federal law.

    2.Just like Bush he sent the national guard to the border with no authority to detain or arrest illegal crossers, nor did they have any authority to prevent illegal crossing.

    3.Just like Bush, McCain(McCain is facing reelection so he is pretending that he is not a pro-illegal) and the late Kennedy who tried to pass the last amnesty, Obama is a pro-illegal.
    Are you kidding me? Have you seen his campaign commercials?

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    all the more reason NOT to sue arizona

    rather, he should be ASSISTING

    and, again, why doesn't doj go after SANCTUARY CITIES?
    Are you forgetting the amendment going through the Arizona House requiring anyone who is running for President, in order to get on the Arizona ballot, to show their LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE A NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN? Is the pouty maobama trying to coerce the Arizona Legislature to back off from making him show is long form birth certificate?

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
    Are you forgetting the amendment going through the Arizona House requiring anyone who is running for President, in order to get on the Arizona ballot, to show their LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE A NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN? Is the pouty maobama trying to coerce the Arizona Legislature to back off from making him show is long form birth certificate?
    Please stop yelling, I have a headache.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    So he's going to sign it - great! When are those 1,500 going to arrive? I say not until next year... didn't he promise Jan Brewer some border patrol folks like months ago and then refuse to even talk to her or comment? Forgive my lack of confidence here in this bill... politically, I can't see much happening quickly here.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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