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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    you could probably build a pretty good Papier-mâché wall with $600000000.
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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Is Obama trying to keep them out, or help them get in?

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is Obama trying to keep them out, or help them get in?
    Cracks me right up when people try so hard to take a shot that they wind up looking dim.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    why is obama suing the people of arizona for doing for him his job which for 2 years he has refused to do?

    do you really believe this piddly little pre-election photo-op is gonna, or is even intended to, solve the border?

    if the people of arizona are compelled to abide by obama's one-plan-fits-all, comprehensive approach to immigration, why does he turn a wilfully blind eye to our dozens of SANCTUARY CITIES who, unlike ms brewer, stand in open contravention of the spirit even of federal law covering those found here illegally?

    the problem is---the people obama keeps picking to manage these programs are not reliable

    the UNION representing 7000 federal ice employees wrote a UNANIMOUS, 259-0, letter of NO CONFIDENCE in ice director john morton in june

    Head of ICE receives unanimous no-confidence vote from own agents...accused of de facto amnesty - National Immigration reform | Examiner.com

    the union charges the director with "misrepresenting dangers posed by criminal aliens, turning detainment centers into resorts where illegal aliens are allowed to roam free, no longer subject to searches, and creating a DE FACTO AMNESTY in lieu of enforcement"

    from the "Vote of No Confidence in ICE Director John Morton:"

    “While ICE reports internally that more than 90 percent of ICE detainees are first encountered in jails after they are arrested by local police for criminal charges, ICE senior leadership misrepresents this information publicly in order to portray ICE detainees as being non-criminal in nature to support the Administration's position on amnesty and relaxed security at ICE detention facilities.

    The majority of ICE ERO Officers are prohibited from making street arrests or enforcing United States immigration laws outside of the institutional (jail) setting. This has effectively created "amnesty through policy" for anyone illegally in the United States who has not been arrested by another agency for a criminal violation.”
    “ICE Detention Reforms have transformed into a detention system aimed at providing resort like living conditions to criminal aliens. Senior ICE leadership excluded ICE officers and field managers (the technical experts on ICE detention) from the development of these reforms, and instead solicited recommendations from special interest groups. The lack of technical expertise and field expertise has resulted in a priority of providing bingo nights, dance lessons and hanging plants to criminals, instead of addressing safe and responsible detention reforms for non-criminal individuals and families. Unlike any other agency in the nation, ICE officers will be prevented from searching detainees housed in ICE facilities allowing weapons, drugs and other contraband into detention centers putting detainees, ICE officers and contract guards at risk.”

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    For details on the contents of the Southwest Boarder Security Bill, you can read the summary brief linked herein.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I wouldn't put it past him. I mean, the guy does sue states that dare attempt at helping the government enforce border security. I won't judge the bill until I know what's in it. But lately the Democrat party has been labeling bills as "helping the poor" or "creating job" that really don't help the poor or create jobs at all. It's all politics and no substance.
    it doesn't matter what obama does or does not do, people like you are never happy. great.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it doesn't matter what obama does or does not do, people like you are never happy. great.
    Yup. It is what it is.

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Prof,

    I wonder where all the criticism was when GWBush did very little about illegal immigration when boarder security was of vital importance in a post-9/11 America?

    I wonder why there was little focus on protecting our southwester boarder when it's been very well known that Mexicans were entering this country illegally and you had reports that Al-Quaida operatives looking at coming into the U.S. via Mexico? Could it be that the only published reports to the public were of those operatives who tried to come through Canada instead that garnered the most media attention and we have stronger economic and national security ties with our northern neighbor than we do with our southern one?

    The hypocricy that stems from this illegal immigration issue is just unfathomable!!!

    Protect our norther boarder from one or two known terrorist who the media reported on after 9/11, but do very little about the biggest gapping whole anyone w/enough money who looks "Mexican" can come through nearly at will.

    Scare the public about dirty bombs in cargo shipping containers at nearly every one of our customs ports, but do little to nothing about making them more secure.

    (Republicans) Make such a big stink about illegals gaining U.S. citizenship, i.e., the 14th Amendment argument, but are quick to condemn any effort to shore up boarder security by this President.

    You guys are a riot!!! You'll complain about anything so long as in your minds it makes you look good to your voters. Un-freakin-believable!!!

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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Prof,

    I wonder where all the criticism was when GWBush did very little about illegal immigration when boarder security was of vital importance in a post-9/11 America?

    I wonder why there was little focus on protecting our southwester boarder when it's been very well known that Mexicans were entering this country illegally and you had reports that Al-Quaida operatives looking at coming into the U.S. via Mexico? Could it be that the only published reports to the public were of those operatives who tried to come through Canada instead that garnered the most media attention and we have stronger economic and national security ties with our northern neighbor than we do with our southern one?

    The hypocricy that stems from this illegal immigration issue is just unfathomable!!!

    Protect our norther boarder from one or two known terrorist who the media reported on after 9/11, but do very little about the biggest gapping whole anyone w/enough money who looks "Mexican" can come through nearly at will.

    Scare the public about dirty bombs in cargo shipping containers at nearly every one of our customs ports, but do little to nothing about making them more secure.

    (Republicans) Make such a big stink about illegals gaining U.S. citizenship, i.e., the 14th Amendment argument, but are quick to condemn any effort to shore up boarder security by this President.

    You guys are a riot!!! You'll complain about anything so long as in your minds it makes you look good to your voters. Un-freakin-believable!!!
    If you have any of my posts regarding illegals, you would find that it was stated more than one that the problem is not just Obama. Bush, Clinton, et.al, did nothing to solve the issue. It is almost funny anymore when I see " wonder where all the criticism was when GWBush did very little about illegal immigration.", Because the outcry was very loud when GWB did nothing, are you saying we should not be critical of Obama? Good grief!. If that is you strongest objection, its time to move on.

    Being from AZ when I see results I will give credit to those that deserve it. Tell why Obama is suing AZ over our employer santion bill that was signed by Janet N when govenor? It targets those that hire illegals. Why is Obama suing AZ over 1070 which could help the feds?
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    Re: Obama to sign bill $600m for patrolling US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I wonder where all the criticism was when GWBush did very little about illegal immigration when boarder security was of vital importance in a post-9/11 America?
    june, 2007:

    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Immigration measure causes Senate phone lines to crash « - Blogs from CNN.com

    are ice agents hypocrites, 259 to zero?

    is their union?

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