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    Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.



    Even if you debate these numbers, the trend is inescapable. Even if you think the poll may be flawed, you can't deny that it's going to happen.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...1/rel11a1a.pdf

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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    I think the tide is starting to turn. First, Glenn Beck yesterday comes and and says he's not anti-gay marriage. Now, this editorial opinion from Foxnews.com:

    FOXNews.com - My Fellow Conservatives, Think Carefully About Your Opposition to Gay Marriage

    Other conservatives howl that one judge is unjustly invalidating the will of seven million Californians and that gay rights should come to the populace through the ballot box, not the courts.

    We conservatives have a well-founded narrative about judges and the courts. It is true that the federal bench is populated with liberals who view their role not as interpreting the law as it is written, but as policy makers empowered to sculpt social outcomes with which they agree.

    The irony of this case is that Judge Walker is not a liberal activist judge but one whose career has proven him to be a tempered judge, true to the Reagan-Bush conservative jurisprudence that he was nominated to represent on the bench.

    Conservatives cannot deny that our Founders intended the judiciary as an equal and independent branch of government purposed to ensure the protection of every citizen’s rights.

    The Supreme Court has previously ruled that the right to marry is a fundamental constitutional right.

    When an unpopular minority is denied the right to marry, it is indeed the role of the courts to protect the rights of that minority, especially when a majority would deny them. This is why Judge Walker’s opinion reads, “That the majority of California voters supported Proposition 8 is irrelevant, as fundamental rights may not be submitted to [a] vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”

    Not to mention that conservatives have a flawed history with civil rights, a trend that began when Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act as unconstitutional. While Goldwater was no racist there is clearly a conservative precedent for a breakdown at the intersection of ideology and reality.

    The aforementioned arguments against Judge Walker’s Perry v. Schwarzenegger decision risk undermining legitimate conservative gripes about the judiciary and putting conservatism once again, on the wrong side of the latest chapter in American civil rights.

    The potential consequence that conservatives land on the wrong side of civil rights history again is the alienation of an entire generation of voters. With polling definitively indicating that Americans under age 30 overwhelmingly favor gay rights, with a majority supporting gay marriage according to the Pew Millennial Attitudes report published in February this year, there are multiple reasons for conservatives to think carefully before digging in their heels against gay marriage.

    Margaret Hoover is a writer, conservative commentator and Fox News contributor.

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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Want to know what is accounting for the trend? Old people are dying out, and being replaced with younger people.

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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    That would be nice if true, but the wording of that CNN poll is just terrible. It doesn't really get at the actual underlying issue.

    "Do you think gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to get married and have their marriage recognized by law as valid?"

    and

    "Do you think gays and lesbians should have a constitutional right to get married and have their marriage recognized by law as valid?"
    The public's thoughts on what the Constitution does or does not say is entirely irrelevant. The only real question is whether people would support legislation authorizing same-sex marriage.

    The trendlines on the DK graph are also completely unscientific. It looks like the guy just drew lines on the graph by hand.
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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    The majority also oppose elective abortions in all stages of pregnancy. All I know is about 80% of TN voted against gay marriage, and the majority of Californians did too. No state (to my knowledge) has had a popular vote in favor of establishing SSM. Polls are nice and all, but sometimes they don't accurately depict the truth.
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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The majority also oppose elective abortions in all stages of pregnancy. All I know is about 80% of TN voted against gay marriage, and the majority of Californians did too. No state (to my knowledge) has had a popular vote in favor of establishing SSM. Polls are nice and all, but sometimes they don't accurately depict the truth.
    where did you get that abortion stat?

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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    where did you get that abortion stat?
    Generational Differences on Abortion Narrow
    It seems as the older generation dies off, the younger generation is become increasingly pro-life. The most pro life generation is the youngest, and the most pro-abortion generation is the oldest. The trend (and now the majority) oppose elective abortions for any stage of pregnancy.


    I will admit that it seems the younger generations favors SSM, but they are also becoming more pro-life.
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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    where did you get that abortion stat?
    probably from some far-right clearing house for bull**** sats...

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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    probably from some far-right clearing house for bull**** sats...
    Look above, it comes from Gallup...
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    Re: Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Look above, it comes from Gallup...
    Yes, but it's a very selective quoting. The majority of Americans actually support abortion remaining legal, with some limitations.

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