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Majority of Americans now support gay marriage according to CNN poll.

what were the rail splitter's numbers at this point (LOL!), y'know, old honest abe?

anyway...

TODAY president barack hussein obama is UNDERWATER on virtually EVERY major domestic issue facing this nation in its CURRENT state of dire CRISIS

on immigration, pew has his position at 59 to 32, a plurality deficit of TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT

on birthright citizenship, hussein obama is THIRTY FOUR POINTS behind, 58 to 24

on the mosque, hussein trails america, by THIRTY NINE, 68 to 29, says cnn

on REPEAL of the mandate the show me state has spoken, measure C passed, 71 to 29, a margin of FORTY TWO

i could go on (and on), believe me

i have the LINKS!!!

why, they're all over the msm

it's news like this that harries the hussein junta so horrendously it starts accusing its own base, the "professional left," which openly gnashes its perfectly straightened and shiny, $10,000 teeth in dismay over this record of universal failure, of being in need of drug testing

just what is it that makes the white house suspect its base is a bunch of druggies?

the whole thing, if you stop and think about it, is really weird

Hint: the topic is polling on gay marriage. ODS is not pretty...
 
How about Reagan, since he did not get a bump from 9/11. Reagan was about 40 % approval at this point. Clinton, about 40 %. Obama, about 45 %.

you're the one comparing presidential polls

LOL!

maybe gibbs was right about those folks in need of drug testing
 
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Want to compare them to Bush at the same time in his presidency?

Bush started off much much lower than Obama, and stayed low until 9/11, at which time everyone rallied around the president. Not comparable in the slightest. Any President at that time would have had huge ratings. Bush ended up, as you know, as one of the most unpopular Presidents of modern times.
 
Let's see that poll from Fox navy. Put up!


You need to watch The Factor on Fox........Oreilly had one..............I know you don't believe it but I think if you take a poll on a left wing news network it will be skewed to the left and ikf you take a poll on a right leaning news network the poll will lean to the far right............


Bottom line if gay marriage was winning they would not lose every time there is a vote taken.........31-0 cons amendemnts with more coming in Nov.............You on the left can poo poo this all you want but the facts remain the American people are against gay marriage...........
 
You need to watch The Factor on Fox........Oreilly had one..............I know you don't believe it but I think if you take a poll on a left wing news network it will be skewed to the left and ikf you take a poll on a right leaning news network the poll will lean to the far right............


Bottom line if gay marriage was winning they would not lose every time there is a vote taken.........31-0 cons amendemnts with more coming in Nov.............You on the left can poo poo this all you want but the facts remain the American people are against gay marriage...........

So you got no poll. How about this: just admit you made it up. I looked at FOX, and they say you are wrong.
 
I would not consider 52% pro Prop 8 in Cali to be "soundly". Like the CNN graph showed, the trend is changing to support gay marriage. You can look at it how ever you want, but I believe Danarea is right... older generations are dying out, and the younger generations support gay rights at a much higher rate than older generations.


that would be 52 to 48 in the most Liberal state in the union...........You want me to pull up Mississippi's vote on a constitutional amendment............It won by about 85%..........
 
You need to watch The Factor on Fox........Oreilly had one..............I know you don't believe it but I think if you take a poll on a left wing news network it will be skewed to the left and ikf you take a poll on a right leaning news network the poll will lean to the far right............


Bottom line if gay marriage was winning they would not lose every time there is a vote taken.........31-0 cons amendemnts with more coming in Nov.............You on the left can poo poo this all you want but the facts remain the American people are against gay marriage...........

Man! Do you not pay attention at all or are you just lost in your own little world that you ignore everything that contradicts your world view?

The polls show that public opinion is moving -- very rapidly -- toward acceptance of gay marriage. Every poll, without exception. Even in elections, where votes against gay marriage win by smaller and smaller margins every time.

The trend is undeniable.

The poll posted earlier was the first that showed that more approved than disapproved. It was going to happen sooner or later given the trend. Not every poll will agree, but before you know it, they all will have a majority approving it.

Once more: This was about what people are thinking NOW. Not what they thought years ago when this first started showing up in opinion polls and on ballot boxes.

You understand that, right?
 
Posted by me in responce to your post: post 18

:lamo

Only you would think that citing your bad math that publicly corrected is a good idea.

Once again, 50> is a majority. Both you and Prof need to retake basic math.

RyrineaHaruno is correct largely because you don't understand what "majority" means.
 
never used the word majority on this thread, my mathematical comrade

made a point instead of looking at PLURALITIES

but now that you mention it

on immigration, a MAJORITY of americans oppose president pie-in-the-face's provocative position, 59 to 32, a PLURALITY of 27

on the mosque, the MAJORITY of your neighbors and peers disagree with obtuse obama's idiotic intervention of himself into this new york nest of hornets, 68 to 39, a PLURALITY of 29 (including a very near MAJORITY of ny DEMOCRATS, exactly 50% of em)

on birthright citizenship, the MAJORITY of your equals find barack hussein obama's views alien, 58 to 24, a PLURALITY of 34

on REPEAL of the obamacare mandate, missourians who are never wrong have spoken, a solid MAJORITY, 71 to 29 in favor of REPEAL, a PLURALITY of 42

on drilling, another (or, more likely, probably pretty much the same) MAJORITY of the electorate stand against the presidential poser's preposterous posture, 64 to 21, a PLURALITY of 43

just look at these issues---the border, the mosque, citizenship, REPEAL, drilling

and look at the PLURALITIES---TWENTY SEVEN, TWENTY NINE, THIRTY FOUR, FORTY TWO, FORTY THREE...

aren't they beautiful?

indeed, the PLURALITIES of americans opposed to oblivious obama on the latter two issues, REPEAL and drilling, equal or EXCEED his lastest JOB APPROVAL, posted by gallup today, another new low

Gallup.Com - Daily News, Polls, Public Opinion on Government, Politics, Economics, Management

LOL!

thanks for pointing it out

you want the links?
 
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How about Reagan, since he did not get a bump from 9/11. Reagan was about 40 % approval at this point. Clinton, about 40 %. Obama, about 45 %.

I thought Bush was so bad how about Bush? Bush was before Obama much more recent opinions.
 
Bush started off much much lower than Obama, and stayed low until 9/11, at which time everyone rallied around the president. Not comparable in the slightest. Any President at that time would have had huge ratings. Bush ended up, as you know, as one of the most unpopular Presidents of modern times.

Obama may surpass Bush as unpopular.



You may want to relook at a comparison of Bush and Obama

Popularity Contests - The Corner - National Review Online

Here’s an interesting data point comparison: Barack Obama’s approval rating in the Gallup Poll today is 61 percent, with 28 percent disapproving (the Real Clear Politics aggregate of polls has his overall job approval rating at 59.8 percent). A March 5-7, 2001 Gallup poll found President Bush’s job approval at 63 percent as well, with only 22 percent disapproving. So George W. Bush, at a comparable time in his presidency, was in marginally better shape than Barack Obama is right now, at least based on the Gallup Poll survey.

This runs counter to conventional wisdom that Obama is tremendously popular, and that Bush (based on the divisive nature of the 2000 election) was not. In fact, according to the Gallup Poll data, what President Bush did was rise in the esteem of the public during the first five weeks of his presidency, while Obama has lost a bit of altitude.
 
Although I am gay, I am not in favor of gay marriage.

I consider it a heterosexual institution and want *no* part in it. Many gay men I have spoken to have stated that although they would never get married, they want gay marriage in order to stick it to the het's. I find that repulsive and anti-freedom.

However, if Americans wish to make gay marriage legal, I have *no* problem with it at all.

My fear is that the Obama Administration will use police power through an executive order (or other punitive action) to require church's (or religious institutions, societies or groups) to adhere to gay marriage, essentially using force to exact compliance.
 
Do you support civil unions? At the very least I would think you would want the sane benefits and rights as straight couples.
 
Johnny, I do support civil unions, mainly since they bind (through contract) and allow the partner an equal say in all stated affairs between both parties in case of emergency or death. I have always beleived that traditional marriage is between a man and woman for the express purpose of rearing children.
 
Johnny, I do support civil unions, mainly since they bind (through contract) and allow the partner an equal say in all stated affairs between both parties in case of emergency or death. I have always beleived that traditional marriage is between a man and woman for the express purpose of rearing children.

gays can rear children too, and studies have proven that it is not detrimental to the children in any way.
 
I thought Bush was so bad how about Bush? Bush was before Obama much more recent opinions.

How about we compare him with similar presidents, not ones that had an exceptional event by this point in their administration. I know, actual similar presidents ruins your point, but it's more honest.
 
What the hell are you talking about?

I guess I'm just sick of hearing about gay marriage day after day. I was tired on Friday, just got disgusted.
 
How about we compare him with similar presidents, not ones that had an exceptional event by this point in their administration. I know, actual similar presidents ruins your point, but it's more honest.

Nice excuse to give Obama a pass, Look atr the first hundred days
 
That would be nice if true, but the wording of that CNN poll is just terrible. It doesn't really get at the actual underlying issue.



The public's thoughts on what the Constitution does or does not say is entirely irrelevant. The only real question is whether people would support legislation authorizing same-sex marriage.

The trendlines on the DK graph are also completely unscientific. It looks like the guy just drew lines on the graph by hand.

Exactly. Pretty much meaningless results. If they asked if people if they thought that marriage should be recognized as a union between a man and woman only they would get a different result. I think what people are answering is a resignation that it will probably happen regardless of what they think so I guess I should get used to it. Just more of the political drumbeat of most of the media. The gap has certainly closed though.
 

My fear is that the Obama Administration will use police power through an executive order (or other punitive action) to require church's (or religious institutions, societies or groups) to adhere to gay marriage, essentially using force to exact compliance.

Do you also fear being eaten by Bigfoot? Because, you know, it has about the same chance of happening.
 
Fair enough. Crunch and Ptif need to retake basic math.

You mean like this from a CNN link I showed in post #61

Forty-nine percent of respondents think gay and lesbian couples have the constitutional right to get married and have their marriage recognized by law, while 51 percent say those rights do not exist.
 
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