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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    How does a thread about kidnappings in Phoenix turn into a thread on hiring illegals.

    The violence caused by the illegals seems to get a pass by pro illegals.

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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Whether you or anyone else wants them is irrelevant to them. They want to come, and they will.
    Which means that, if we are not to be overrun by unwanted peoples, we must exert greater efforts to remove them from our country and to keep them out. This is our country and if we allow others to impose themselves upon us, our country will be lost. This is not only our prerogative as a nation, it is our duty to do so as a matter of self-defense.

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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Which means that, if we are not to be overrun by unwanted peoples, we must exert greater efforts to remove them from our country and to keep them out. This is our country and if we allow others to impose themselves upon us, our country will be lost. This is not only our prerogative as a nation, it is our duty to do so as a matter of self-defense.

    A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation, or won't be long.

    When too many people enter a country illegally, many times with no intention to assimilate or become a citizen, but rather abuse the existing social programs and thumb their nose at the law, the problems that arise are numerous and serious.

    Not controlling our borders and immigration is an eventual path to losing our country to a foreign culture and people.

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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capital - Page 1 - News - New York - Village Voice



    I understand that this article has its own slant, but the situation in Arizona is appalling.
    It's a shame that stuff like this is going on down there. Yet more reasons why we need to reform our immigration laws.
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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Which means that, if we are not to be overrun by unwanted peoples, we must exert greater efforts to remove them from our country and to keep them out. This is our country and if we allow others to impose themselves upon us, our country will be lost. This is not only our prerogative as a nation, it is our duty to do so as a matter of self-defense.
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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I know that. Whether you or anyone else wants them is irrelevant to them. They want to come, and they will. By making it easier to come in legally, at least they have a chance of rising up instead of being a burden on taxpayers.
    False Logic, they will be burdens on society unless they integrate. Notice the lack of emphasis on such? They will be burdens because there are so many welfare and social programs aimed at "helping them".
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
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    Works for me..... let's just open up the border for everyone. No Visas, no rules, come one come all.

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    Who here is suggesting that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Which means that, if we are not to be overrun by unwanted peoples, we must exert greater efforts to remove them from our country and to keep them out. This is our country and if we allow others to impose themselves upon us, our country will be lost. This is not only our prerogative as a nation, it is our duty to do so as a matter of self-defense.
    The only reason why they're a problem now is that they are a criminal underclass mostly incapable of getting good employment or education. The previous wave of huddled masses did pretty well.

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    False Logic, they will be burdens on society unless they integrate. Notice the lack of emphasis on such? They will be burdens because there are so many welfare and social programs aimed at "helping them".
    And the biggest barrier to integration is keeping them poor by making it too difficult to immigrate. Of course we should have some screening before we let them in, but the current system is a complete mess.
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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How does a thread about kidnappings in Phoenix turn into a thread on hiring illegals.

    The violence caused by the illegals seems to get a pass by pro illegals.
    Nobody's denying that these scumbags should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The argument is over the main causes.
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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capital - Page 1 - News - New York - Village Voice



    I understand that this article has its own slant, but the situation in Arizona is appalling.
    How exactly are you for the Arizona law but hate Arpaio and claim the governor who helped bring the law into the light is a racist without supporting information?
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    Re: Inside the Brutal World of America's Kidnapping Capitol

    Human trafficking, and especially the trafficking of women and children, is an international problem, not just in the U.S. I think focusing on the illegal immigration situation in just the U.S. is only downplaying the seriousness of the global human trade. People are often lured with false promises to come overseas, and once they arrive they're trapped. Slavery and indentured servitude are still alive and kicking, even in the U.S. and Canada, it's just not something people want to know or talk about. The fact that it's sex slavery and not industrial-strength slavery like the old day should not really ease our minds about this.

    People forget that the western nations are wealthy, which means the sickos with a lot of money and time on their hands can pay any sum to have people moved from country to country. You'd be surprised what levels of society are involved. It's not just the low life pimps of the streets. There's also an upper crust at work, especially when it comes to child trafficking.

    Even if the border has a wall, it's not going to stop the root of the trafficking practice. These low lives have centuries worth of experience in moving humans from one place to another under the radar. They are always adapting and their greatest weapon is our systemic ignorance of the problem.

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