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    Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

    Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian MuslimsBy SHARON LEM, Toronto Sun

    Last Updated: August 9, 2010 7:05pm
    .Canadian Muslims say building a mosque at Ground Zero in Manhattan is like “rubbing salt in the wound.”

    The Muslim Canadian Congress will be meeting with the group behind the mosque Tuesday in New York City to protest the plans to build near the site of the former Twin Towers.

    The proposal to convert a former coat factory across the street from Ground Zero has caused an outburst of anti-Muslim feelings because the terrorists who killed about 3,000 people in the 9/11 attacks were of Muslim faith.

    “It’s important for a Muslim voice from the Muslim faith to speak out and say it’s wrong to build a house of worship right across the street from the very site where people of part of the same faith killed New Yorkers,” said Raheel Raza, a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress.

    “It’s not what I call tolerance.”

    Imam Faisal Rauf, organizer of the Cordoba House Initiative, which is building the mosque, has said he hopes being in that location will build bridges and promote tolerance.

    “My faith tells me to not create unrest between myself and my neighbours. This is not a bridge-building exercise — it’s doing the exact opposite of creating tolerance,” said Raza, who will be meeting with Rauf Tuesday.

    “Many Muslims suspect the idea behind building the mosque at Ground Zero is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. We believe the proposal has been made in bad faith and, in Islamic parlance, is creating ‘fitna’, meaning ‘mischief-making’, an act clearly forbidden in the Qur’an,” Raza said, adding there are already 30 mosques in New York City.

    Funding is also a concern for the Muslim Canadian Congress, Raza said, noting the source has not been identified.

    “If this mosque is being funded by Saudi sources, then it is an even bigger slap in the face of Americans as nine of the jihadis in the Twin Tower calamity were Saudis,” he said.
    Why didn't this story make mainstream media in the U.S.? It should be on the front page of the NY Times. I've been waiting for other Muslims to speak out against building that mosque. Surely this is a worthy story. Why hasn't it been covered here?
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Perhaps because it doesn't matter?


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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    Why didn't this story make mainstream media in the U.S.? It should be on the front page of the NY Times. I've been waiting for other Muslims to speak out against building that mosque. Surely this is a worthy story. Why hasn't it been covered here?
    Yes, but it's not right across the street.

    I don't see what the big ****ing deal is here. There are churches and houses of worship all over the damned place, and mosques all over NY. What's one more? I think in the end, people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Is it insensitive? Maybe I guess if you're going that route. But that route is for hippies. It doesn't matter how insensitive it is. it's legal.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but it's not right across the street.

    I don't see what the big ****ing deal is here. There are churches and houses of worship all over the damned place, and mosques all over NY. What's one more? I think in the end, people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Is it insensitive? Maybe I guess if you're going that route. But that route is for hippies. It doesn't matter how insensitive it is. it's legal.
    What bothers me the most about this is that the people who want to build the Mosque talk about tolerance and understanding, yet they must be aware of the up roar of the general population in the US. about the location they have chosen and continue to talk about tolerance and understanding….. While ignoring the bad feelings they are engendering.

    My feeling is, if they build there someone is going to re-enact 9/11 using the new Mosque as the target, and the builders of the Mosque will have reached their goal of inciting their followers to riot over the lack of tolerance and understanding of the American people.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but it's not right across the street. I don't see what the big ****ing deal is here. There are churches and houses of worship all over the damned place, and mosques all over NY. What's one more? I think in the end, people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Is it insensitive? Maybe I guess if you're going that route. But that route is for hippies. It doesn't matter how insensitive it is. it's legal.
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    Perhaps because it doesn't matter?
    The point is that a Muslim organization itself has spoken up saying it's insensitive. How insensitive are you that you don't get that Muslims expressing sensitivity would make a difference to a whole lot of sensitive people? Say that ten times fast.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    What bothers me the most about this is that the people who want to build the Mosque talk about tolerance and understanding, yet they must be aware of the up roar of the general population in the US. about the location they have chosen and continue to talk about tolerance and understanding….. While ignoring the bad feelings they are engendering.

    My feeling is, if they build there someone is going to re-enact 9/11 using the new Mosque as the target, and the builders of the Mosque will have reached their goal of inciting their followers to riot over the lack of tolerance and understanding of the American people.
    I agree with you. I think, in the end, its being built will show that the American legal system works, that prejudice is not tolerated, even when emotions run hot. Good PR, so to speak.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but it's not right across the street.

    I don't see what the big ****ing deal is here. There are churches and houses of worship all over the damned place, and mosques all over NY. What's one more? I think in the end, people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Is it insensitive? Maybe I guess if you're going that route. But that route is for hippies. It doesn't matter how insensitive it is. it's legal.
    I couldn't agree more. And it doesn't matter who says it is insensitive.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I couldn't agree more. And it doesn't matter who says it is insensitive.
    I think most have missed the point I took from this article which is that a Muslim organization recognized it was indeed a sensitive issue -- which, no matter what position anyone takes, is the truth -- and they spoke up. After 9/11, mass media didn't share much about mainstream Muslim condemnation of those extremists, Here, we finally have a mainstream group expressing some support -- and it isn't being covered in the U.S.

    No matter who says it's not insensitive, that's the same as telling someone, "Oh, you shouldn't feel like that." There's obviously (unless media is lying to us) much local opposition.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The point is that a Muslim organization itself has spoken up saying it's insensitive. How insensitive are you that you don't get that Muslims expressing sensitivity would make a difference to a whole lot of sensitive people? Say that ten times fast.
    It doesn't matter if it's insensitive. It's not illegal to be insensitive.

    What part of that do you not get?

    Now, go sing kumbaya with some hippies somewhere until you calm down.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    So what if it is a bad idea?

    Just because something is a bad idea doesn't mean it's illegal.

    You know, this whole controversy is exactly what the Taliban wants. Now they can point at us and say "See? We told you they hate us." Great recruiting tool; hey thanks for helping our enemies out here.

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