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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    They could, but it still is not a Constitutional matter or everyone could build what they wanted, anywhere they wanted, anytime they wanted.
    Of course it is, it has everything to do with property rights. Zoning is under property rights as well.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    My experience here is that the liberals are the ones that dismiss foreigners except when they agree with them... I guess it is what type of "other" you are.
    You're not paying attention. It's not whether or not you dismiss someone else's opinion -- it's whether or not you dismiss someone's opinion on the basis of the fact that they're a foreigner and as such couldn't possibly know what they're talking about, only to accept that opinion when it supports your agenda.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do. I asked what counted as support. You went off on a tangent and didn't actually answer anything. I called you on it. You made a silly retort which did nothing to advance your cause. Clear as day.
    No, I chose to indirectly answer your question by example..... yes they can build their Mosque anywhere they can get permits to build it, and we, as Americans have THE RIGHT to make their lives hell over it.

    Notice we have a right..... they have no right to build. (Constitutionally speaking)

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What do you mean by "be on their side"? If you mean that they will say they are well within their rights to build it; then perhaps. And that's a true statement; they are well within their rights to build it. There's nothing we can really do about it. I mean, people may not like it being built but can still support their right to build it.
    Wouldn't you even be worried a teensy bit if the majority of Muslims were against it yet the few insisted on building it there? There are 23 or 30 some mosques already in NYC. It's my understanding this one will be built in a poor location for Muslims to frequent. (please don't ask me for links or I'll just retract my statement) POS PC
    Anyways, I am against it because I really believe it will be a symbol of Conquest for radical Muslims.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    No, I chose to indirectly answer your question by example..... yes they can build their Mosque anywhere they can get permits to build it, and we, as Americans have THE RIGHT to make their lives hell over it.

    Notice we have a right..... they have no right to build. (Constitutionally speaking)

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    You don't have the right to make anyone's life hell. They have a right to build the mosque on land they legally purchased if they meet all the permits/zoning laws, etc. There is a limit to the harassment, however, that people are allowed to give. Protesting is one thing, and that is the one thing allowed. You cannot do anything which would infringe upon their rights. And you still didn't answer the question, which is why I pointed it out before. It was said that the left would still support it. I wanted to know what counted as support. Surely people can be pissed off at it, but realize there is nothing legally they can do about it. Would they be supporting the building of the mosque? Even though they don't like it, they're willing to grant them their ability to build it. Is it support? I think that many people who are saying it's their right to build this building aren't so happy with it going up; but rather are recognizing religious and property rights.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You don't have the right to make anyone's life hell. They have a right to build the mosque on land they legally purchased if they meet all the permits/zoning laws, etc. There is a limit to the harassment, however, that people are allowed to give. Protesting is one thing, and that is the one thing allowed. You cannot do anything which would infringe upon their rights. And you still didn't answer the question, which is why I pointed it out before. It was said that the left would still support it. I wanted to know what counted as support. Surely people can be pissed off at it, but realize there is nothing legally they can do about it. Would they be supporting the building of the mosque? Even though they don't like it, they're willing to grant them their ability to build it. Is it support? I think that many people who are saying it's their right to build this building aren't so happy with it going up; but rather are recognizing religious and property rights.
    Don't you think the system worked just like it's supposed to? People protested to their heart's content. In the end, fairness won. This is a basic freedom in the United States of America. What went wrong? I say nothing. You say? I'd even say that most people agree it's their right to build...anyone who thinks otherwise now, is just plain wrong.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Wouldn't you even be worried a teensy bit if the majority of Muslims were against it yet the few insisted on building it there?
    It would depend on the situation. I don't know why I should be worried about a building. We'll see how it works out; but why should anyone be worried about a building? Particularly a place of worship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    There are 23 or 30 some mosques already in NYC. It's my understanding this one will be built in a poor location for Muslims to frequent. (please don't ask me for links or I'll just retract my statement) POS PC
    So? In my town there's at least 20 Churches around town. And we're nowhere close to the size of NYC. Some of them, like that mega-Church, is way the fudge out there in the boondocks. If they want to put their Church there, fine by me. I don't see why number of churches comes into it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Anyways, I am against it because I really believe it will be a symbol of Conquest for radical Muslims.
    I think this is an incredibly made up reason.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Wooo I'm listening to Sean Hannity. There is a Muslim on there screaming at the top of his lungs against the mosque and the Imam. Saying they want to change this country and he loves this country the way it is. Telling them to leave and go home. He condemned Hamas as a terrorist org. and said Rauf won't because he has ties to them. Interesting caller.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun



    Why didn't this story make mainstream media in the U.S.? It should be on the front page of the NY Times. I've been waiting for other Muslims to speak out against building that mosque. Surely this is a worthy story. Why hasn't it been covered here?
    I saw one of their representatives on O'Reilly. Some of the most rational thought out there.

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    *waiting for the far lefties to come out and call HER a bigot against Islam*
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