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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    how does one advance relations by being insensitive?

    we know how obama answers that---those who don't see things his way need to be drug tested

    so the president hears the angst of the overwhelming majority of americans and new yorkers, including half of big apple's dems

    and he responds by picking mr rauf as his state dept's emissary to muslim donors abroad

    characteristic bony finger direct in the eye of american sentiment

    when are you gonna move ksm downtown, mr president, before or after the mosque?

    when are you gonna meet with the leaders of iran, before or after gitmo closes, dadt ends?

    before or after you reachout and change the world?

    this mosque will never be built

    because, fundamentally, you can't "improve west-muslim relations" by being crass

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The proposed location for the Mosque isn't even at Ground Zero....its three blocks away. Not to mention that the Pentagon, which many people forget was also a tragic target of 911 has a mosque inside for muslim worship, along with other areas for other religious services.

    People are WAAAAAAAAAAY to sensitive over this issue.
    Of course people are being too sensitive and there is nothing wrong with the building of the mosque. But, do you think people would have taken kindly to the Japanese building a Shinto temple in Hawaii in the years following the bombing of Pearl Harbor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I would wager the real opposition in the Islamic faith comes from those who fear the building of the mosque will lead to an increasing of hostility towards Islam in the US as a whole.
    that's a very good point, this manifestation of thoughtlessness is actually worsening the relations cordoba says it wants to improve

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If we apply this logic in reverse, one can blame the US is to blame for 9/11.
    Which is exactly what the Iman of the proposed Mosque does.

    From 2001 60 minutes interview.

    Bradley: And throughout the Muslim world, there is also strong opposition to America's foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East because of its support of Israel and economic sanctions against Iraq.

    Faisal: it is a reaction against the US government politically, where we espouse principles of democracy and human rights, and where we ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in many of these countries.

    Bradley: Are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?

    Faisal: I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but united states policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.

    Bradley: You say that we're an accessory? How?

    Faisal: Because we have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.
    Prominent American Muslims denounce terror committed in the name of Islam

    So there you have it..... we brought it on ourselves, and we made bin Laden.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    these are 70% issues for obama's political opposition---cordoba, his lawsuit against the people of arizona, his other versus the drillers in the gulf, his mumblings about moving ksm, his mandate to buy health insurance...

    but, hey, as always, washington knows best!

    everyone else needs to pee in a cup

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    how does one advance relations by being insensitive?

    we know how obama answers that---those who don't see things his way need to be drug tested

    so the president hears the angst of the overwhelming majority of americans and new yorkers, including half of big apple's dems

    and he responds by picking mr rauf as his state dept's emissary to muslim donors abroad

    characteristic bony finger direct in the eye of american sentiment

    when are you gonna move ksm downtown, mr president, before or after the mosque?

    when are you gonna meet with the leaders of iran, before or after gitmo closes, dadt ends?

    before or after you reachout and change the world?

    this mosque will never be built

    because, fundamentally, you can't "improve west-muslim relations" by being crass
    Prof.... I'm ashamed of you. You missed the best part.

    August 9, 2010 - 7:01 PM | by: Jake Gibson
    WASHINGTON– State Department officials on Monday confirmed Feisal Abdul Rauf, the Imam of the so-called Ground Zero Mosque, will soon be going on a trip of the Middle East and the U.S. government will be picking up the tab.

    The planned construction of a mosque near Ground Zero in New York City has set off a contentious national debate over religious freedom in the U.S., drawing impassioned opposition from some families of 9/11 victims.

    Rauf has emerged as a controversial figure because of his refusal to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization, which is how the U.S. government classifies the group. The imam also has been quoted as saying U.S. foreign policy was in part responsible for the 9/11 attacks.


    Read more: US State Dept Sends Mosque Imam to Mideast « Liveshots

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    \My feeling is, if they build there someone is going to re-enact 9/11 using the new Mosque as the target, and the builders of the Mosque will have reached their goal of inciting their followers to riot over the lack of tolerance and understanding of the American people.
    And they would be right to be angry.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    I must admit, one may get the sense that I am sure the Byzatine's felt after the Hagia Sophia was converted to a mosque.

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The point is that a Muslim organization itself has spoken up saying it's insensitive. How insensitive are you that you don't get that Muslims expressing sensitivity would make a difference to a whole lot of sensitive people? Say that ten times fast.
    When the **** did we have to become all touchy feely sensitive about everything?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    When the **** did we have to become all touchy feely sensitive about everything?
    I don't know, Ikari. Ask those that are.
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