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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You missed a part.
    Using your reasoning, the blacks who built churches in the South were just provoking the KKK to burn them down.

    Right?
    Weren't they as seen from the Clans perspective?
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    Perchance. But in that scenario, the Klan is wrong.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Perchance. But in that scenario, the Klan is wrong.
    Absolutely, and that won't buy one persons life back will it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Absolutely, and that won't buy one persons life back will it?
    Nope, but it will land some folk in jail. It's unfortunate that perhaps some people would be motivated to these ends. However, we can't allow that motivation to prevent us from exercising our rights. If we do, then we've merely bowed down before terrorism. In which case one could ask why one set of terrorists and not another?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, but it will land some folk in jail.
    Cold comfort for the dead.
    It's unfortunate that perhaps some people would be motivated to these ends. However, we can't allow that motivation to prevent us from exercising our rights. If we do, then we've merely bowed down before terrorism. In which case one could ask why one set of terrorists and not another?
    My position is that the sponsors of the Mosque are either stupid, or want there to be an incident like a bombing or a shooting...... I really don't think they are stupid.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    My position is that the sponsors of the Mosque are either stupid, or want there to be an incident like a bombing or a shooting...... I really don't think they are stupid.
    I agree with those who think it's simply an in-your-face statement. Twenty years from now, that Mosque (or cultural center, or whatever it's called) will stand as testimony that we live by the rule of law.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I agree with those who think it's simply an in-your-face statement. Twenty years from now, that Mosque (or cultural center, or whatever it's called) will stand as testimony that we live by the rule of law.
    Or it will be a burned out hulk, or it will have a memorial for the 100's killed and Muslims will point at it as justification for their atrocities.... you pays your money and takes your chances.
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Cold comfort for the dead.
    Can't bring back the dead, but should death be a reason to fear freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    My position is that the sponsors of the Mosque are either stupid, or want there to be an incident like a bombing or a shooting...... I really don't think they are stupid.
    I wouldn't go so far as to say they want it to be bombed. That's maybe a bit on the stupid side. Maybe they're trying to be "in our face", but I doubt they want killings to happen. But in the end, those killings are not on them. If let's say something horrible like that happens, they are not responsible for the one's who pull the trigger. And if we're so intolerant that we'd resort to terrorism against people exercising their rights; I think that speaks more of a sad commentary towards the protesters than it does against those wishing to build a place of worship.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    in your face, on the one hand

    trying to improve west-muslim relations, on the other

    it all falls apart that simply

    if one is sincere about improving one's relations with one's neighbors, he or she needs to listen to em

    especially when they're starting to scream at you

    they have a right to build their mosque, out of courtesy and respect they should move and will be forced to move

    it's awful late, tho, they've really offended a lot of people

    lots of folks never heard of cordoba and rauf before this

    also, those seen in sympatico with this project will pay a political price at the polls

    people are pretty worked up, they get a little more offended every day, and they have every right to form their views based on their own values, even if their priorities appear alien to you

    obama certainly shouldn't have selected rauf to send around the world, tho

    talk about in-your-face...
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    Re: Ground Zero mosque bad idea: Canadian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    What bothers me the most about this is that the people who want to build the Mosque talk about tolerance and understanding, yet they must be aware of the up roar of the general population in the US. about the location they have chosen and continue to talk about tolerance and understanding….. While ignoring the bad feelings they are engendering.
    Really can you point out where Ive mentioned tolerance in any of my arguments? My arguements are based on private property and first amendment rights alone.
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