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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Jesus promoted tolerance. One of his main groups he reached out to were the prostitutes and tax collectors (and the zealots of his time had a fit). However, people who claim to be Christians do not promote tolerance (not all, but sadly the zealots taint our image).
    Eh, the story of the good samaritan had some insights. However, in general, Paul wasn't a very tolerant person, and most Christian doctrine is about 75% based upon Pauline teachings and 25% based upon the words of Jesus Christ, in my experience.

    You, however, are a good egg.

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Because you were attempting to argue that the same zoning standards should be used for a gay bar as for a church, and that simply doesn't reflect reality. If you knew the zoning would already allow this club, then you should have stated this.

    You think you know what I believe, and that your little intellectual attempts at traps are clever, but they're really clumsy and stupid, Tex.
    I understand you have a hard time following and jump into threads before thinking them through. I refer you to when you made up quotes I never made or when you claimed you were a centrist and I quoted the far left statements and threads you have made.

    And you've done it again here. If he is in commercial zoning as he believes then there is no legal justification for denying him the space. That is no different than allowing a Mosque to be built if the zoning is correct as you and others pointed out in the other thread, there is no legal justification for denying him the space. Its the same point from two different views. Its too bad you didn't realize it sooner than page 7.

    And if you are actually agreeing with me here after arguing for so long, my point about your style has been proven
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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I understand your views in this regard, and I must respectfully disagree. I do think, however, that while your reach a similar conclusion, your reason for opposing the mosque is quite different than the majority of Americans that oppose the mosque. I'd suggest that my quarrel is really with them.
    I don't oppose the mosque. I feel that if the zoning allows for religious buildings in that area, it should be allowed. It's a clear-cut 1st Amendment violation, otherwise.

    Just because I believe that the mosque should be allowed, don't assume I'm a fan of Islam (or any other religion). Probably the only religion I have is that of the constitution and bill of rights.

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    That is no different than allowing a Mosque to be built if the zoning is correct as you and others pointed out in the other thread, there is no legal justification for denying him the space.
    But nobody is denying him the space. Let him get the proper permits and the investors willing to put their money into this just to make a statement, and I don't think anybody is going to oppose him. But that's just it, he isn't serious, so this whole argument is academic.

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I understand you have a hard time following and jump into threads before thinking them through. I refer you to when you made up quotes I never made or when you claimed you were a centrist and I quoted the far left statements and threads you have made.
    I AM a centrist, Tex. Feel free to ask my opinion on any issue. Just because I have a few liberal beliefs doesn't mean that the sum total of my beliefs are liberal. Most of my views are conservative.

    And you've done it again here. If he is in commercial zoning as he believes then there is no legal justification for denying him the space. That is no different than allowing a Mosque to be built if the zoning is correct as you and others pointed out in the other thread, there is no legal justification for denying him the space. Its the same point from two different views. Its too bad you didn't realize it sooner than page 7
    I'm not sure this is a commercial area. I was under the impression that it was residential, in which case, a bar might not be allowed, based upon existing zoning laws. Do you have evidence that this is a commercial area where other bars exist? If you're going to make this claim, you should prove it.

    And if you are actually agreeing with me here after arguing for so long my point about your style has been proven
    The fact that it took you until page 7 to figure out what I was saying is just sad.

    My first post made my position clear: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058912634
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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. It's trolling when you don't understand the comments being made by people so you jump into wave a flag mode. It would take somebody far more connected than a FOX News commentator to get a licquor license and operate next door to a house of worship in any state. That's what my argument was in reference to. When you're ready to discuss my statements, maybe you can come back to your thread?
    Wait...dont we have another thread running right now about a Church right next door to a strip club???

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    If it's supposed to mimic the conceptualization of the mosque, will he announce that it will be built right next to it and actually plan on building it several blocks away?

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wait...dont we have another thread running right now about a Church right next door to a strip club???
    Yes, but the strip club predated the church. The church members CHOSE to locate across the street from it. Thus, their protests about it are pretty disingenuous.

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    They still have permitting requirements & zoning ordinances, just like any other city. Most cities won't allow a strip club to be built next to a school, either.
    We have another thread with strippers protesting their next door neighbors...a church.

    besides...what would be the problem with housing a gay club next to the mosque?

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    Re: Gregg Gutfeld Says He Plans to Open Gay Bar Next to Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Miller and his show was outstanding on HBO. I love his monolgue because you had to be up on history to understand many of his jokes.
    Thanks, I forgot about him. He's ok I guess and I suppose he is to the right.

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