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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I have never seen or heard anyone contradict themselves so thoroughly in two sentences as you have just done. Congrats! You're a winner!
    Oh, really? Care to point it out to me? Here it is again for your referrence:

    Bad credit is a risk factor to an employer. People with bad credit are statistically more prone to theft of material goods, or deceptive character. It is not to say that everyone that has bad credit will steal, nor is it to suggest that people with bad credit are always deceptive, but it does correlate statistically.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    So if someone got behind on their cable bill or student loans that means they are going to go steal? I guess by this logic, if someone owns a rifle chances are they killed a deer so chances are they are going to go on a shooting rampage at work if they get angry with their boss right, so lets make sure we check to see if people own guns before we hire them.

    I've known completely irresponsible assholes that got a job that required credit checks. I fail to see how one jumps from "this guy got a little behind on his bills" to "this guy could steal from us". One is just something that happens to most people at one point or another in their life, the other is a felony. I'm going to give the majority of people the benefit of the doubt and say they know the major differences between both of them.
    Well isn't this a giant contradiction of yourself.
    In one case you acknowledge that even someone you yourself consider a completely irresponsible asshole was still able to pass this portion of the hiring process.

    Then you turn around and get all melodramatic and make the claim that someone getting "a little behind on their cable bill" will keep them from getting a job.

    Which is it brother man?

    The credit check is to check on something much much worse than being a little behind on your cable bill.

    I had some credit issues when I first applied at the department due to being deployed and unknowingly oweing an online university some money while I was deployed in the Army and couldn't pay, or even recieve notice that I was required to pay something.

    As long as you can explain to your employers what a particular problem is and what you are doing to fix it, as long as its not owing 200k or some other great sum of money, I think you can move past it.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Aren't these hiring arguments a little bit non-applicable considering that no one is hiring?
    We are. Our company has more than doubled the number of employees over the past two years.

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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Go ahead, shine for me..


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    Except you have yet to SHOW a valid statistical correlation.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Except you have yet to SHOW a valid statistical correlation.
    Oh, that's right, a "valid" one, eh? Please.. You're not debating a child, Hoplite, I know what I posted was not only valid, it was extremely comprhensive in scope.

    Now, if you want to try your little debate tactic with me, you're going to have a hard time. See, you're going to need to show me what's wrong with it; saying it is wrong is not nearly enough, and I will ignore you.


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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well isn't this a giant contradiction of yourself.
    In one case you acknowledge that even someone you yourself consider a completely irresponsible asshole was still able to pass this portion of the hiring process.

    Then you turn around and get all melodramatic and make the claim that someone getting "a little behind on their cable bill" will keep them from getting a job.

    Which is it brother man?

    The credit check is to check on something much much worse than being a little behind on your cable bill.

    I had some credit issues when I first applied at the department due to being deployed and unknowingly oweing an online university some money while I was deployed in the Army and couldn't pay, or even recieve notice that I was required to pay something.

    As long as you can explain to your employers what a particular problem is and what you are doing to fix it, as long as its not owing 200k or some other great sum of money, I think you can move past it.
    How is it a contridiction? The guy worked for citigroup, had no credit problems cuz he lived with his mommy but still did drugs, eventually got fired because one day he went in hoped up on cocaine from all the bonus money he got. What if the guy ended up being ****ed up and was messing with peoples money? btw before you answer cocaine takes about a week to get out of your system, I have no problem with drug test because that will actually effect someones performance.

    Also to the original poster (even though I guess he is banned from the topic) I have emailed my local representative and senate on the issue, as well as our own govenor because I thought it was a very smart idea, I have gotten a call from my representative and a email back from my local senate saying they are both interested in the issue and are looking into it.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Oh, that's right, a "valid" one, eh? Please.. You're not debating a child, Hoplite, I know what I posted was not only valid, it was extremely comprhensive in scope.

    Now, if you want to try your little debate tactic with me, you're going to have a hard time. See, you're going to need to show me what's wrong with it; saying it is wrong is not nearly enough, and I will ignore you.
    I gave you the problems with the study you posted. Can you address them or not?
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I gave you the problems with the study you posted. Can you address them or not?


    There are problems with any sample studies. Pointing out problems isn't exactly a new thing, pal. Pointing out why these problems impact the analysis, and conclusion is wherein the skill lies. You, apparantly lack it?


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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    There are problems with any sample studies. Pointing out problems isn't exactly a new thing, pal. Pointing out why these problems impact the analysis, and conclusion is wherein the skill lies. You, apparantly lack it?
    I already outlined this previously. Now, one last time, are you going to answer the issues I pointed out or not?
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I already outlined this previously. Now, one last time, are you going to answer the issues I pointed out or not?
    Sure give me the link to your post..


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