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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    You sir, are denying ME of a job.
    You are not entitled to any particular job. I don't care who you work for except, if you can't pass our background check, you would not work for our company.

    I am the BEST employee you could EVER have...
    That might be your opinion but, guess what, the employer get to decide who is best qualified for the job they need done.


    yet you look at my PERSONAL information and determine something OTHER? And BY THE WAY
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    The employer gets to decide the qualifications they require, as long as they don't desciminate against a protested class.

    Deadbeats are not yet a protected class..... except in IL.

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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Sure, you can ask.

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    I didnt ask if I could ask. I asked if you'd care to share what you usually hire people to do and what business you work for or run
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I didnt ask if I could ask. I asked if you'd care to share what you usually hire people to do and what business you work for or run
    It's irrelvant? What is the relevance?

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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It's irrelvant? What is the relevance?
    It makes a difference. If you are running credit checks on your janitors or mailroom clerks, that I would consider a bit excessive and a form of economic discrimination as neither party is in a position where their job brings them into situations where poor spending habits or personal financial irresponsibility (if that is the cause of their low credit) would be a problem.

    However if you're hiring for something like a director of operations or a financial accounts manager, I could see the argument for wanting to do credit checks.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I didnt ask if I could ask. I asked if you'd care to share what you usually hire people to do and what business you work for or run
    Just for you, Sweetie.

    We provide proprietary technical products and services. Almost all of our people have degrees, mostly engineering. A significant portion have advanced degrees.


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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Just for you, Sweetie.

    We provide proprietary technical products and services. Almost all of our people have degrees, mostly engineering. A significant portion have advanced degrees.
    For that line of work and pay grade, I'm more inclined to agree that credit checks should be allowed but I still think someone should be able to refuse the credit check and not have it impact their employment status.
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post


    The employer gets to decide the qualifications they require, as long as they don't desciminate against a protested class.

    Deadbeats are not yet a protected class..... except in IL.

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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Bad credit is a risk factor to an employer. People with bad credit are statistically more prone to theft of material goods, or deceptive character. It is not to say that everyone that has bad credit will steal, nor is it to suggest that people with bad credit are always deceptive, but it does correlate statistically.


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    Good point!

    I would like to point out that working in law enforcement, you have to have good credit in order to get a job. Those with bad credit or other serious financial problems are more prone to accepting bribes, or stealing items from a store that has already been broken into before you contact the owners to determine if any theft has occurred.

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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Good point!

    I would like to point out that working in law enforcement, you have to have good credit in order to get a job. Those with bad credit or other serious financial problems are more prone to accepting bribes, or stealing items from a store that has already been broken into before you contact the owners to determine if any theft has occurred.

    There are reasons for these sorts of things.
    Just like Muslims are more prone to blowing **** up. But you shouldnt discriminate in either case. Dog people are more likely to have anger management problems. Should they be able to ask what pets you have because of most likely, flawed statistics???? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Quinn signs bill limiting employment credit checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Good point!

    I would like to point out that working in law enforcement, you have to have good credit in order to get a job. Those with bad credit or other serious financial problems are more prone to accepting bribes, or stealing items from a store that has already been broken into before you contact the owners to determine if any theft has occurred.

    There are reasons for these sorts of things.
    That doesnt seem like a good reason to deny someone employment as a police officer and sounds like discrimination based on economic situation. Your credit rating is not a reflection of your moral character.

    If you want to use an arbitrary rating of how the market feels regarding your spending habits, you could also say that someone with a good credit rating would be a bad police officer because they'd be too unwilling to take risks necessary to do their job well.

    If it sounds ridiculous flipped around then chances are good it's pretty ridiculous no matter what angle you come at it.

    Credit ratings are NOT to be confused with the morality system of a Bioware game
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