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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I hear about other places having 90-100 degree days and complaining about heat wave I have to think what a bunch of crybabies. We have days like that all the time in the summer and its worse if there was a couple of rain storms the week or before.
    What is your location?

    In Texas, you can expect 100 degree days, but not in Moscow, where the latitude is about the same as that of Montreal. What is considered a normal day in Texas kills in Russia.
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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    I wonder if this has to do with the fact that it's an El Nino year?

    The heat wave is bad but the forest fires in Russia are compounding the air quality problem with soot from the outlying forested areas.

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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    For those complaining about the heat wave in the heartland of the US, you could be living in Russia. Right now, about 700 people are dying every day in Moscow. Another complication is added because the heat has set off fires in the peat bogs outside of Moscow, and the air is thick with smog and smoke. In addition, this heat wave stands to destroy about 30% of Russia's grain crop, and Russia has called a halt to all grain exports, as it attempts to head off it's own food shortage.

    NOTE: Moscow's latitude is about the same as that of Montreal.

    Russia today stands at the brink of a crisis, and there is no relief in sight in the immediate future, as the hottest decade since scientists began taking measurements is being easily beaten by the decade that is now shaping up.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Argentina is in the Southern hemisphere. It is winter there.
    Russia's in the Northern Hemisphere, it's summer there!

    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Gee, will Fox News cover this...
    They will probably do what Mr. V did, and say that it is cold in Argentina, even though it is winter there. Hehe.
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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    When people make the argument that global warming will be a benign thing that improves crop yields, we'll start pointing them to Russia 2010.
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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When people make the argument that global warming will be a benign thing that improves crop yields, we'll start pointing them to Russia 2010.
    One scenario I have read about says that Canada will end up with the grain belt, while America's bread basket turns into a desert.
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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I hear about other places having 90-100 degree days and complaining about heat wave I have to think what a bunch of crybabies. We have days like that all the time in the summer and its worse if there was a couple of rain storms the week or before.
    Well you have to remember what the climate is normally like there. Here in Boston when it gets into the 90s it sucks because we are use to high 70s low 80s. Also we don't have AC so it is even worse.

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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    This is a human tragedy undeserving of this partisan hackery. It's unfortunate that a "conservative" had to bring this thread into the arena of AGW in the first place, also unfortunate that "liberals" point to this as evidence of climate change when any other localised phenomena that contradicted global warming would be dismissed as local weather patterns even though they would use this local local bout of adverse weather as indicative of global climate change.

    I'll wait and see if GLOBAL climate patterns support the idea of AGW, which they have thus far done so, before I hijack peoples deaths for political point scoring. Right now I hope the Russians take all available means of international aid that may be on offer to help people in need.

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    Re: Deadly Russian heat wave gravest over millennium

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    When I hear about other places having 90-100 degree days and complaining about heat wave I have to think what a bunch of crybabies. We have days like that all the time in the summer and its worse if there was a couple of rain storms the week or before.
    An important difference: In TX, the heat is commonplace and virtually everyone has air conditioning. In Moscow, many years do not experience even a single 90° reading during the summer, nights are typically in the 40s and 50s fahrenheit. As a result, very few places have air conditioning.

    Moreover, in terms of deviations from normal, what is happening in Russia completely blows away the fabled hot summer of 1980 in Texas in which Dallas-Fort Worth hit an all-time high temperature of 113° and established its most 100° days.

    Deviations from Normal (°C):

    1980:


    An area of +5°C. For Dallas: Greatest monthly deviation from normal: +7.0°F

    Russia 2010:


    A large area of +8°C. For Moscow: Greatest monthly deviation from normal: +15.0°F

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