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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Thanks for your permission, not that I need it.
    Of course you don't need it, but I'm merely saying I have no objection.

    Oh yeah. You have never used Media Matters, or any related or like progressive site to make your liberal points?
    Apples to Oranges. Media matters is nothing like the American (non)Thinker. They are mostly accurate.



    Nonsense, this is just more of your usual dimissal M.O. Allinsky tactic that is worn out. Find a new shtick Prof.


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    Your opinion aside, it really cannot be argued that both sides have both. And it is kind of foolish to even try to argue otherwise.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are you asking me or j? I certainly am not arguing any of it is factually incorrect.
    I agree that the government had more to do with the recession occurring; that's especially true with the recession continueing, but I'm unaware of which of Bush's policies caused the recession.

    Care to point them out to us?
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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course you don't need it, but I'm merely saying I have no objection.

    Good, sit down then.


    Apples to Oranges. Media matters is nothing like the American (non)Thinker. They are mostly accurate.
    OMG! You have got to be kidding me?






    Listen to them Joe, you might learn something.


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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not greed, nor did people spending more than they could afford cause the recession. It was the doom-saying from politicians that had more to do with the recession, that cause a slow down in spending, more than anything else.
    Now, this IS the dumbest post I've ever read on this or any forum concerning the cause of the current recession.

    Of course greed caused all this mess!!!!

    People who knowlingly couldn't afford their expensive homes, cars, luxury items, investment bankers taking excessive risks they knew they couldn't afford creating "wealth" only on a ledger using creative financing techniques...

    YES! That was greed in every practical sense of the word. People wanted more and more in excess of what they already had or couldn't afford. And as a result, the bottom fell out.

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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, this IS the dumbest post I've ever read on this or any forum concerning the cause of the current recession.

    Of course greed caused all this mess!!!!

    People who knowlingly couldn't afford their expensive homes, cars, luxury items, investment bankers taking excessive risks they knew they couldn't afford creating "wealth" only on a ledger using creative financing techniques...

    YES! That was greed in every practical sense of the word. People wanted more and more in excess of what they already had or couldn't afford. And as a result, the bottom fell out.
    Going to post some examples, or just spew filthy personal insults, as usual?

    Wanna stop with the vitrial for a moment and ask why the bottom fell out? It fell out, because the government interfered too much with the private sector. The Dems said for years, "we're in economic trouble!", until that's exactly what they got.


    Do you want to point out which of Bush's policies caused the recession?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good, sit down then.




    OMG! You have got to be kidding me?






    Listen to them Joe, you might learn something.


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    You have to do better than this. You have to link te media matters article and show them inaccrate. just having a commontator say they were inaccurate is not enough.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wanna stop with the vitrial for a moment and ask why the bottom fell out? It fell out, because the government interfered too much with the private sector. The Dems said for years, "we're in economic trouble!", until that's exactly what they got.

    Do you want to point out which of Bush's policies caused the recession?
    Deregulation AND lack of regulatory oversight put this country on the downward spiral it's on today. First, Reagon deregulated the banking industry which lead to the S&L crisis and a near banking/housing collapse in 1998. Then Clinton w/Greenspan pushed cheap housing (mortgage loans) which at the time was the major economic engine the country had. From that, credit was vastly extended. It was this mechanism - credit lending - that put our economy in trouble. Too much uncollateralized debt!!! Too much risk!!!

    Now, add to that an unfunded expansion of Medicare (Part D) and two very costly wars - one, of which we should never have started! - and that spells out how Bush contributed greatly to dismal economy. (You can also add in "No Child Left Behind" because it wasn't paid for either, but its impact isn't nearly as troublesome as Medicare and the two wars.)
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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to do better than this. You have to link te media matters article and show them inaccrate. just having a commontator say they were inaccurate is not enough.

    Proving once again that you didn't listen to either one of the clips, because they talked about and showed the actual article.


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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    I wonder why no one uses this measure of unemployment. If anything it's more accurate.

    Gallup Daily: U.S. Workforce

    18.5 per cent underemployment.

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    Re: US Job Market Loses Steam

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Proving once again that you didn't listen to either one of the clips, because they talked about and showed the actual article.


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    Yes, I did listen to them, both now and in the past. As I remember, we once showed that your clips were the inaccurate ones.

    That said, you make no effort to show anything other than your clip, requring the listener to assume there is no rebuttal. Nor do you even seek a rebuttal, and people who do this are often easily swayed. I do not recommend that anyone accept media matters off hand, but I certainly don't think these type of talking heads should be accepted unchallenged. My problem with you is not in doubting media matters on any particular statement, but tha you take such weak evidence as the gospel. What you presentis more flawed than media matters.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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