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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Oh, I know you luuuuuvvvv you some government. LOL
    Who would that be? The ones looking for the right to contract to be acknowledged or those looking to use government force to enforce their preconceived notions of what "marriage" is?
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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Appeal to populism doesn't count for valid argument. It wasn't Judao-Chirstian beliefs, only maybe 30% of the 10 Commandments made it into actual law. The fact remains that you cannot subject me to the rules of your god and use government force to enforce that subjugation. The Marriage License is a contract, plain and simple. The individual has right to contract. That's it.
    Marriage is a contract to you because you don't believe in a Christian God.

    It is not a contract; in fact, it's anything but. It's a life-long commitment made before God, in a church, in front of the people that mean the most to you. Government wasn't and isn't any part of my marriage to my wife, and it never will be.

    With religion, the concept of marriage never would have surfaced. We'd be running around screwing everybody and procreating at will. A man might have 10 kids on the way simulataneously with 10 different women, and that would be normal.

    Christianity (and other religions) scoff at such a behavior, and if you believe in the Bible, it describes what and how procreation is supposed to occur, within the framework of marriage.

    Without that, "marriage" would have never been invented in the first place. I mean, with no boundaries, what's the fun of marriage?

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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Who would that be? The ones looking for the right to contract to be acknowledged or those looking to use government force to enforce their preconceived notions of what "marriage" is?
    "Contract". Wow, how romantic.

    I've never known anyone looking to enter a "contract of marriage" before.

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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Marriage is a contract to you because you don't believe in a Christian God.

    It is not a contract; in fact, it's anything but. It's a life-long commitment made before God, in a church, in front of the people that mean the most to you. Government wasn't and isn't any part of my marriage to my wife, and it never will be.

    With religion, the concept of marriage never would have surfaced. We'd be running around screwing everybody and procreating at will. A man might have 10 kids on the way simulataneously with 10 different women, and that would be normal.

    Christianity (and other religions) scoff at such a behavior, and if you believe in the Bible, it describes what and how procreation is supposed to occur, within the framework of marriage.

    Without that, "marriage" would have never been invented in the first place. I mean, with no boundaries, what's the fun of marriage?
    We're not talking about how the church views it, get that through your dogmatic viewpoints head.

    We're talking about how a secular government who is suppose to treat all people fairly should view marriage, and that, it is equal for all.

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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    "Contract". Wow, how romantic.

    I've never known anyone looking to enter a "contract of marriage" before.
    And yet almost every one who gets married in this country do enter into that contract.

    Edit to add: and they happily accept the benefits that come from entering that contract.
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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Marriage is a contract to you because you don't believe in a Christian God.
    First off, Marriage is a contract because the Marriage License is a contract which is issued and recognized by the State. And secondly, once again I am not held to the standards of your god. That's your problem, not mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It is not a contract; in fact, it's anything but. It's a life-long commitment made before God, in a church, in front of the people that mean the most to you. Government wasn't and isn't any part of my marriage to my wife, and it never will be.
    Religion has nothing to do with it. Nor can it form the basis of an argument about laws in America. The Marriage License is a contract. That's the end all be all of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    With religion, the concept of marriage never would have surfaced. We'd be running around screwing everybody and procreating at will. A man might have 10 kids on the way simulataneously with 10 different women, and that would be normal.

    Christianity (and other religions) scoff at such a behavior, and if you believe in the Bible, it describes what and how procreation is supposed to occur, within the framework of marriage.
    Christians can do whatever the hell they want. They don't have to marry gay people either if they do not want it. But religious arguments are not valid for implementation of laws in our society. Our laws are to be based upon the rights and liberties of the individual; not your god. So it's a moot point. Your god can say all sorts of things, and you can buy into it as much as you want. But you cannot subjugate me to the whims and laws of your god.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Without that, "marriage" would have never been invented in the first place. I mean, with no boundaries, what's the fun of marriage?
    I doubt that marriage would never have evolved without the use of religion. It's an institution which has several benefits for society. Benefits that allowing same sex marriage will not destroy.
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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    "Contract". Wow, how romantic.

    I've never known anyone looking to enter a "contract of marriage" before.
    Have you known anyone to sign a marriage license? if so, then yes you have.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And yet almost every one who gets married in this country do enter into that contract.

    Edit to add: and they happily accept the benefits that come from entering that contract.
    Yeah, the marriage tax penalty is awesome!

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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, the marriage tax penalty is awesome!
    It's not a penalty to most.
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    Re: Mexico court backs gay marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    We're not talking about how the church views it, get that through your dogmatic viewpoints head.

    We're talking about how a secular government who is suppose to treat all people fairly should view marriage, and that, it is equal for all.
    You mean the same government that taxes me at a higher rate than my neighbor. The same government that provides additional advantages to people of one color versus another? The same government that is going to tax me again on the same money they've already taxed me on when I die?

    Liberals preach fairness, fairness, fairness......except when it's inconvenient.

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