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    Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?



    Quote Originally Posted by Time
    By Adam Cohen Wednesday, Aug. 04, 2010

    Anthony Graber, a Maryland Air National Guard staff sergeant, faces up to 16 years in prison. His crime? He videotaped his March encounter with a state trooper who pulled him over for speeding on a motorcycle. Then Graber put the video — which could put the officer in a bad light — up on YouTube.

    It doesn't sound like much. But Graber is not the only person being slapped down by the long arm of the law for the simple act of videotaping the police in a public place. Prosecutors across the U.S. claim the videotaping violates wiretap laws — a stretch, to put it mildly.

    These days, it's not hard to see why police are wary of being filmed. In 1991, the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) beating of Rodney King was captured on video by a private citizen. It was shown repeatedly on television and caused a national uproar. As a result, four LAPD officers were put on trial, and when they were not convicted, riots broke out, leaving more than 50 people dead and thousands injured (two officers were later convicted on federal civil rights charges). (edit)

    More recently, a New York Police Department officer was thrown off the force — and convicted of filing a false report — because of a video of his actions at a bicycle rally in Times Square. The officer can plainly be seen going up to a man on a bike and shoving him to the ground. The officer claimed the cyclist was trying to collide with him, and in the past, it might have been hard to disprove the police account. But this time there was an amateur video of the encounter — which quickly became an Internet sensation, viewed more than 3 million times on YouTube alone.
    First, video taping police who are operating within the public and publicly, should not be a crime in any free society. Second, that the police are allowed to use their power to basically put those who video tape them - through hell - in an attempt to intimidate people to NOT video tape them, is insane. This is a clear abuse of power. The cop even pulled a gun on this guy who was simply video taping him. And, let's not forget, NY has had a few occasions where cops were video taped and followed - which documented them breaking the laws they are hired to enforce, because they wanted to get some donuts and coffee a la Jimmy Justice...

    These police forces allowing intimidation and harassment need to have the **** sued out of them along with City Hall and the Mayor until it changes their behavior.

    Read more: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime? - TIME
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

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    First, video taping police who are operating within the public and publicly, should not be a crime in any free society. Second, that the police are allowed to use their power to basically put those who video tape them - through hell - in an attempt to intimidate people to NOT video tape them, is insane. This is a clear abuse of power. The cop even pulled a gun on this guy who was simply video taping him. And, let's not forget, NY has had a few occasions where cops were video taped and followed - which documented them breaking the laws they are hired to enforce, because they wanted to get some donuts and coffee a la Jimmy Justice...

    These police forces allowing intimidation and harassment need to have the **** sued out of them along with City Hall and the Mayor until it changes their behavior.

    Read more: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime? - TIME
    There shouldn't be any restrictions on it.

    If cops can legally lie to you, then you should be able to tape the confrontation.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    If they can video tape you then why should it be illegal for you do video tape them?Whoever made it illegal should lose his job.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Most departments have video cameras in their police cars that videotape interactions with citizens for use in court. I fail to see how citizens videotaping themselves is any different.

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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Absolutely not. The police can and should be video taped all the time. Who polices the police? The rest of us. There has to be a check on that power. But some places seem to not like it so much when their indiscretions are caught on tape. And in this particular case have tried to enforce a law that is obviously not being applied correctly. I would go so far as to say the police and DA who try to arrest people and try them for this crime should all be fired and barred from ever again holding a position of public office or duty.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    It should absolutely be legal to videotape cops. If they have the right to video surveillance in order to find criminals then we should have the right to survey them with video equipment. Cops are still citizens who are under the law as we all are, they are not immune to committing a crime. It's disgusting to see that you can't video tape a cop.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Hell no.

    It should be completely legal.

    Might reduce those incidents where individual police (or in a few cases, whole segments of a police force) abuse their power.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Hell no.

    It should be completely legal.

    Might reduce those incidents where individual police (or in a few cases, whole segments of a police force) abuse their power.
    Yep. My point exactly.

    However I would always say that citizens and cops videotapes should always be heavily scrutinized for any kind of editing and checked for context.

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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post




    First, video taping police who are operating within the public and publicly, should not be a crime in any free society. Second, that the police are allowed to use their power to basically put those who video tape them - through hell - in an attempt to intimidate people to NOT video tape them, is insane. This is a clear abuse of power. The cop even pulled a gun on this guy who was simply video taping him. And, let's not forget, NY has had a few occasions where cops were video taped and followed - which documented them breaking the laws they are hired to enforce, because they wanted to get some donuts and coffee a la Jimmy Justice...

    These police forces allowing intimidation and harassment need to have the **** sued out of them along with City Hall and the Mayor until it changes their behavior.

    Read more: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime? - TIME
    Looks like Conservatives and Liberals have found some common ground here.
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    Re: Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like Conservatives and Liberals have found some common ground here.
    Ok. Someone cause discourse. Lets get uncle adolph or stalin or death panels into this thread, cause agreeing on something is unacceptable.

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