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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Jim Hogg, a former governor of Texas, named his daughter Ima. And no, contrary to urban legend, she did not have a sister named Ura.

    In Grand Rapids, Michigan, Bill Lear named his daughter Chanda.

    And, of course, we all know about the guy who was named Mike Hunt. LOL.
    I've been to were Jim Hogg plantation was, since my grandmother lives in Sweeney, Texas. Talk about your small town cough the biggest thing was when they got a walmart in West Columbia My dad told me about him naming his daughter Ima Hogg, but I did not know that Ura Hogg was not real.

    I also really don't get why they would take the kids away, because of a name I did read they had metal problems, but what kind of metal problems were they serve enough to warranted the taken of the kid.
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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    I been to were Jim Hogg plantation was, since my grandmother lives in Sweeney, Texas. Talk about your small town cough the biggest thing was when they got a walmart in West Columbia My dad told me about him naming his daughter Ima Hogg, but I did not know that Ura Hogg was not real.
    Ima's a rather well-known and respected figure in Texas, actually; probably better known than her father, he of the dubious sense of humor.

    Ima Hogg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If you ever come to the state capital building, they've got some nice portraits of her.

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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Ima's a rather well-known and respected figure in Texas, actually; probably better known than her father, he of the dubious sense of humor.

    Ima Hogg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If you ever come to the state capital building, they've got some nice portraits of her.
    Thanks for the infomation, I'll check thoese portraits out at the capital buliding. I only been their 3 times, since Austin is a long way from Humble. but my sisiter is going up their for college this year I might go to the capital buliding during our stay.

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    For some reason this song came to mind.
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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I don't care either way. I just know that pieces of **** are likely to raise of pieces of ****. Why allow the obvious to do it out of fear for being labeled "immoral" by our own inhibited idealistic standards about what we wish they were? Because we are afraid that the smallest "right" decision means that we are Nazi Germany.

    We are weak. And we will remain weak, which only ensures our own social conflicts and international struggles. Why say no to parents who are raising their children to be hateful and full of indoctrinated rage? What harm can it do?
    I'll give you the reason, and the harm it can do.

    Personally? I think these people are scum, and I wish they weren't raising their children this way. Most people agree with that.

    So what about we use that consensus to take the kids away? Well, now we've established the precedent on removing kids from their parents because we hate the parents political ideology.

    So now that we've established the precedent that society has that power... what will you think, in 10 or 25 years if a political group comes to power who despises conservative ideology, or Christians, or monogamists, and thinks that is a good enough excuse to take the children away? The precedent on such intervention has been established, what constitutes adequate reason is merely a detail.

    The slippery slope is not a fallacy, when the slope is greased and you're being pushed.

    Or in other words, you'd better care that the other guy's ox is getting gored, because yours might be next.
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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'll give you the reason, and the harm it can do.

    Personally? I think these people are scum, and I wish they weren't raising their children this way. Most people agree with that.

    So what about we use that consensus to take the kids away? Well, now we've established the precedent on removing kids from their parents because we hate the parents political ideology.

    So now that we've established the precedent that society has that power... what will you think, in 10 or 25 years if a political group comes to power who despises conservative ideology, or Christians, or monogamists, and thinks that is a good enough excuse to take the children away? The precedent on such intervention has been established, what constitutes adequate reason is merely a detail.

    The slippery slope is not a fallacy, when the slope is greased and you're being pushed.

    Or in other words, you'd better care that the other guy's ox is getting gored, because yours might be next.
    Rubbish. What you are talking about is the great fear to open doors because we don't know where it may lead. This too...is weakness. Do we not protect the unborn for fear of the slipperly slope? And where oh where will the slipperly slope of stem cell research get us? Better shelve that crap too because we don't know where it may lead. The slippery slope argument is for other civilizations, not ours, yet we use it out of fear because we don't know ourselves.

    This idea that we are too weak to draw lines in accordance to our own ideas of good morality just doesn't work. We are the nation that sparked prohibition and then rejected it. We are the nation that decided to drop two atomic bombs and then spent the next 65 years refusing to drop another one. We are the nation that looked at the KKK and said enough of your freedom of speech. We are the nation that makes it hard for Nazi parties to become little more than a haven for rejects. We constantly opens doors and re-draw lines to suit the needs of the society and good morality.

    To sprint from the idea that we should allow a parent to raise their children to hate and agress on others only harms the society. Why not raise them to be serial killers and call it political ideology? Why not name them Bundy or Manson or Ripper and indoctrinate them to their namesakes? "Oh well....that's our freedom?" I'm sure you heard about the court decision to reverse the baby name "vagina" and "penis" and forced the parents to use their imagination less sexually when they try again? We draw lines all the time. Slippery Slopes are a matter of weakness.

    You know how I know when to stop mowing the yard? I come to the line. But if I do go over it, I damn well know where my yard is. I don't wind up slippery sloping my way across the neighborhood.
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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I would take the kids away just because they called their kids that.

    Honestly i think anyone who would name their kids that are simply ****ed in the head, and shouldn't be near kids at all.
    As twisted as the names? You have no right to start removing children based on names alone. I hate that people name their kids after months of the year, cars, fruits, etc. but that does not give me the right to take their kids away cause I do not like it. We live in the U.S.A. and have somewhat freedom in reguards to what we name our babies.

    In this case? The parents are sick and I am glad they lost custody. Their racism is not their core issues and they need some frigging help.
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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Sorry I know its horrible but when I read the names I was about in tears. There is crazy, and then there is bat**** insane.

    But yeah, I think eventually we need to come up with a test to determine if people will be good parents or not, how you would do that I dunno, but some parents I just want to smack the **** out of.
    There was a couple a few years back that named their baby Satan.

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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    Sadly, it's actually good that these turds gave their kids those names...

    The article doesn't mention any of the kids' ages, but I'd hope this was caught pretty early in their lives because of it.
    This is true. Those names need to be changed before those children are further victimized.

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    Re: Parents Lose Custody of Hitler

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    As twisted as the names? You have no right to start removing children based on names alone. I hate that people name their kids after months of the year, cars, fruits, etc. but that does not give me the right to take their kids away cause I do not like it. We live in the U.S.A. and have somewhat freedom in reguards to what we name our babies.

    In this case? The parents are sick and I am glad they lost custody. Their racism is not their core issues and they need some frigging help.

    Just another excuse to pan to the offender at the expense of the victim. Whether or not kids are taken is not my heartache. What I don't like is that grown adult people in our society would rather spare the right of a parent to ruin a kids life instead of looking out for the helpless kid. Too often irresponsibility gets painted with the color of freedom. Somehow, a parent's inability to name their baby "vagina" or "Adolf Hitler" or "Satan" or whatever other name creeps into these people minds is supposed to translate over to the inability of others to name their babies "Charlie," "Bob," or "John." I guess that would be that slipperly slope people are always petrified of.
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